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re: Marjorie Taylor Greene mocked for suggesting solar and wind energy don’t work at night
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:57 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:57 am to BayouBlitz
I get the thought process, but criticism like that sounds similar to gun control advocates butchering gun terms.
Solar and wind energy is how you harvest the energy, but it is stored in batteries and still able to be utilized at night. It just made her sound silly. Green energy does deserve a lot of criticism, but this was off.
Solar and wind energy is how you harvest the energy, but it is stored in batteries and still able to be utilized at night. It just made her sound silly. Green energy does deserve a lot of criticism, but this was off.
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:57 am to billjamin
Are you talking like independent/ co ops building nuclear plants? Or like legitimate large energy providers? How big were these plants supposed to be?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:58 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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My problem is people who claim to know what they're talking about, pretending that renewable energy isn't a workable option.
It's NOT.
(You serious Clark??)
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:00 am to Vacherie Saint
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I just told you. I live in the Ida storm path and NO ONE is putting their panels back up. They were complaining about having to maintain these systems prior to the storm. The energy cost offsets are marginal and there are huge limitations for panel location on the average residential roof. The concept is good, but the price of fossil is still too low to pencil out for most Americans and you cant escape the regulated service providers in this model. Wind isnt an option here.
Let me help you out again. Your neighbors are not representative of how solar customers are performing. You have nothing other than local sentiment but continue to extrapolate that beyond your line of sight. Its an insignificant sample.
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These panels also have a shelf life with no environmentally friendly recycling path currently available. Customers are facing a decade breakeven point with another decade of marginal benefits.
Great, now you're going to explain degradation and ROI to me like this isn't' what I do for a living.
quote:Less than 2% of people impacted by Ida have done this. That's a fact from the largest solar fleets in the US and validated by NREL.
They took the grants in the beginning, but when faced with readoption, they are saying "no thanks".
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:00 am to BayouBlitz
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The article quoted her.
Yeah, with 80% of the article before and after the quote being nothing but wishcasting about what she actually said, because they know that low information people will skim the headline and run with it. You lied in your thread title, the article lied, half the article quoted a twitter circle jerk of people lying about what she said.
I don't care one way or the other about MTG. As I said earlier, she's out there sometimes but I like how she votes so I mainly ignore her. But she didn't say what the circle jerk is claiming.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:02 am to nugget
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Are you talking like independent/ co ops building nuclear plants? Or like legitimate large energy providers? How big were these plants supposed to be?
Legitimate large energy providers. These are all multibillion dollar projects but when investors fund the initial diligence its not enough to sustain the litigation so they bail.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:10 am to Flats
Someone posted the entire quote, which you mostly sidestepped.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:11 am to BayouBlitz
MTG is analogous to being The Squad of the Right.
For comics across the country and for anyone with a sense of humor, she is the gift that just keeps giving.
For comics across the country and for anyone with a sense of humor, she is the gift that just keeps giving.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:11 am to BayouBlitz
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The article quoted her. Did they misquote her? Are those not her words?
This isnt a quote
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Marjorie Taylor Greene suggested that solar and wind energy don’t work at night, prompting online mockery.
the article is mainly quoting random peoples tweets.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:11 am to the808bass
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You’re suggesting that she thinks everyone washes their clothes at night?
Wut?
She said what she said. No amount of mental gymnastics can change her ignorant comment.
I don't understand how the Trump cult can't ever admit that another member of the cult is an idiot. This woman has proven to be an idiot before.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:12 am to AggieHank86
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MTG is analogous to being The Squad of the Right.
For comics across the country and for anyone with a sense of humor, she is the gift that just keeps giving.
No one takes you serious around here.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:12 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Someone posted the entire quote, which you mostly sidestepped.
So you, too, think that people only wash their clothes and refrigerate their food at night.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
MTG aside, the storage of solar energy has been debated to death. There's a reason its not widely adopted.
These batteries only hold a fraction of average daily residential usage and require 50 hours of ideal light conditions to fully charge, so the average home needs a boat load of them. They also degrade in efficiency by about 1% per year and cost a fortune to replace ($5K a pop), just like the panels. They are also toxic af.
The concept is good, but the tech needs a lot of work. Forcing it on people via government isnt helping.
If she's speaking practically, she's not wrong. Almost no one can afford to go whole home solar with storage. A full off-grid system just big enough to get you to the average continuous usage will cost you $30K before installation
These batteries only hold a fraction of average daily residential usage and require 50 hours of ideal light conditions to fully charge, so the average home needs a boat load of them. They also degrade in efficiency by about 1% per year and cost a fortune to replace ($5K a pop), just like the panels. They are also toxic af.
The concept is good, but the tech needs a lot of work. Forcing it on people via government isnt helping.
If she's speaking practically, she's not wrong. Almost no one can afford to go whole home solar with storage. A full off-grid system just big enough to get you to the average continuous usage will cost you $30K before installation
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:15 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Again
Someone posted the entire quote, which you mostly sidestepped.
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Thank god for air conditioning. Let’s talk about refrigerators. I personally like my refrigerator. I know you all like yours. What about washing machines and dryers? Lord please God don’t make me scrub clothes in a bucket and have to hang them out on a line when we switch over to wind turbines and solar panels,” she said. “I’m gonna be really pissed off about that. I mean, how absurd is this? I like the lights on. I wanna stay up later at night. I don’t wanna have to go to bed when the sun sets. It’s so silly! I mean, all of this is insane
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:15 am to the808bass
She's a moron and she said something stupid. It could've ended there.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:16 am to BayouBlitz
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“She thinks solar power only works when it’s sunny and wind only works when it’s blowing. What an absolute idiot,” Fred Wellman, a political communications advisor, wrote.
this is someone else telling you what they think she thinks.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:16 am to billjamin
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Legitimate large energy providers. These are all multibillion dollar projects but when investors fund the initial diligence its not enough to sustain the litigation so they bail.
So multibillion dollar companies with dozens of lawyers, trying to start what I assume are projects that generate >1000 MW, are getting killed in litigation by local NIMBY types?
These projects all get tied up in court for years, I don’t believe that litigation is genuinely scaring anyone away, especially not when it’s the Meridian MS city council.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:17 am to billjamin
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Great, now you're going to explain degradation and ROI to me like this isn't' what I do for a living.
Oh. You peddle this stuff. Now it makes sense.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:17 am to Trauma14
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Solar and wind energy is how you harvest the energy, but it is stored in batteries and still able to be utilized at night.
I don't think that's what she was saying. I suspect she knows about batteries, despite people really, really wanting to think that she doesn't. I believe she was talking about states like California having periodic blackouts because they rely too heavily on renewables. She doesn't want to reproduce their mistakes in Georgia or probably anywhere, nor should we.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:17 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:When the topic of solar energy comes up, why do its opponents always jump straight to the premise that six panels on your roof is not going to power your entire home?
If she's speaking practically, she's not wrong. Almost no one can afford to go whole home solar with storage.
Is there anyone on the planet who does not already KNOW that six panels on your roof is not going to power you entire home?
Solar only works as a part of a larger, overall energy infrastructure.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 11:19 am
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