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re: Marjorie Taylor Greene mocked for suggesting solar and wind energy don’t work at night
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It could've ended there.
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:19 am to Vacherie Saint
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These batteries only hold a fraction of average daily residential usage and require 50 hours of ideal light conditions to fully charge,
Huh? Then how am I charging 4 of them in just a few hours?
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They also degrade in efficiency by about 1% per year and cost a fortune to replace ($5K a pop)
Anything to back up that degradation claim?
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just like the panels.
Are you implying they degrade at the same rate and have the same replacement cost?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:21 am to Vacherie Saint
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Oh. You peddle this stuff. Now it makes sense
No, I work in energy finance. Gas, Oil, Nuclear, Solar, Wind, etc.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:21 am to AggieHank86
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Again
And again I refer you to California. I linked their official request from last year asking people to minimize their usage during peak load time (after work to bedtime) to avoid blackouts. You can continue to pretend that I didn't link it; that's fine. I would expect nothing different at this point.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:22 am to Flats
quote:I tend to agree. No one with a functional cerebrum could be as dumb as some of the things that she says.
I suspect she knows about batteries, despite people really, really wanting to think that she doesn't. I believe she was talking about states like California having periodic blackouts because they rely too heavily on renewables.
She has some batshit crazy views on some issues, but this is not one of them. She is just laughably inarticulate in attempting to express her views.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:24 am to Flats
quote:Chill. I posted the quote again because several posters were referencing it, but not quoting it.
And again I refer you to California. I linked their official request from last year asking people to minimize their usage during peak load time (after work to bedtime) to avoid blackouts. You can continue to pretend that I didn't link it; that's fine. I would expect nothing different at this point.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:24 am to Vacherie Saint
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The concept is good, but the tech needs a lot of work.
Sure, and that's why we see forward momentum in the development of the technology.
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Forcing it on people via government isnt helping.
Obviously.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:25 am to Flats
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I refer you to California.
Yeah, but why? We aren't all California.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:25 am to AggieHank86
Im not sure what your point is. You cant simultaneously complain that MTG is too stupid to understand solar basics, then chastise me for assuming folks on a message board might not as well.
These companies will help their clients figure out the maximum amount of panels their roof can accommodate based on light exposure, then compute their savings against the grid. With the grants, it made sense, but now that the grants are gone, people arent paying the replacement costs. The libs are currently freaking out about a toxic solar panel waste glut by 2050. What MTG is talking about better resembles an off-grid system witch is entirely impractical for most people who have the option of a regulated grid - but I dont know what she meant because I pay no attention to her.
These companies will help their clients figure out the maximum amount of panels their roof can accommodate based on light exposure, then compute their savings against the grid. With the grants, it made sense, but now that the grants are gone, people arent paying the replacement costs. The libs are currently freaking out about a toxic solar panel waste glut by 2050. What MTG is talking about better resembles an off-grid system witch is entirely impractical for most people who have the option of a regulated grid - but I dont know what she meant because I pay no attention to her.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sure, and that's why we see forward momentum in the development of the technology.
which has nothing to do with
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Forcing it on people via government
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:26 am to AggieHank86
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Thank god for air conditioning. Let’s talk about refrigerators. I personally like my refrigerator. I know you all like yours. What about washing machines and dryers? Lord please God don’t make me scrub clothes in a bucket and have to hang them out on a line when we switch over to wind turbines and solar panels,” she said. “I’m gonna be really pissed off about that. I mean, how absurd is this? I like the lights on. I wanna stay up later at night. I don’t wanna have to go to bed when the sun sets. It’s so silly! I mean, all of this is insane
Again, go 100% solar and let it be cloudy and rainy for a week in South Louisiana where you're not maxing out your battery capacity every day. They run your a/c 24/7, wash clothes, run a dishwasher, charge your EV, etc. You will be picking a choosing what you want to do to save your battery in a day or two.
Then, lets talk about hurricanes. Do you know how many panels were blown off of rooftops last year? You can't just have Entergy or Cleco repair some lines and restore power in a few days.
The govt. just needs to stay out of the way and stop acting like oil & gas, coal, etc., is the fricking devil.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:28 am to AggieHank86
If your battery craps out since they dont last forever or you arent getting some sunny days to charge up the battery. Its not going to power your entire house through the night.
this isnt some far fetched thing that needs a lot of explaining.
this isnt some far fetched thing that needs a lot of explaining.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
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She is just laughably inarticulate in attempting to express her views.
As it relates to Government and being an effective leader, being articulate and or eloquent is exceptionally overrated.
Obama is articulate and quite eloquent.
Mitt Romney is articulate and quite eloquent.
Liz Cheney is articulate and quite eloquent.
Maybe plain spoken non-intellectual people running government is a good idea since the "intellectuals" are currently running the country into the shitter.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:29 am to MightyYat
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Do you know how many panels were blown off of rooftops last year?
Less than 10% failure rate and most of that was due to faulty installation. I've seen super typhoons hit islands with quality installers where zero modules were lost and that was on a flat roof with a pitched array and storms that make Ida look like a little bitch.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
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Chill. I posted the quote again because several posters were referencing it, but not quoting it.
You also included a false claim about me. It's not unreasonable to think you were agreeing with it.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:32 am to NCIS_76
I have solar on my deer feeders. Constantly not working because there was overcast or just not great equipment.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:32 am to dgnx6
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this isnt some far fetched thing that needs a lot of explaining.
But it does require some understanding. Systems are built and sized using local irradiance data any typical meteorological year data. An off-grid capable system is then given a margin error that is designed more with budget in mind than anything. A properly built system can easily still have a solid ROA and provide extended periods of off-grid capability up to and including indefinite. I've run my ranch system in grid isolated mode for weeks through ice storms, rain, etc and it works just fine.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:37 am to billjamin
Im sure it does. I'm certain all of that is true.
But here in the US, you cant run away from the reality of the costs. Without grants, most people arent getting a sufficient cost/benefit from feeding an grid with residential panels. Anyone who has energy infrastructure available is almost 100% not looking at an off-grid system. The market is telling us loud and clear that solar isnt ready to go toe to toe with fossil. At best, it can compliment fossil in certain situations.
But here in the US, you cant run away from the reality of the costs. Without grants, most people arent getting a sufficient cost/benefit from feeding an grid with residential panels. Anyone who has energy infrastructure available is almost 100% not looking at an off-grid system. The market is telling us loud and clear that solar isnt ready to go toe to toe with fossil. At best, it can compliment fossil in certain situations.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:38 am to Vacherie Saint
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which has nothing to do with
Others have disagreed. If there's no contention on that point, we can be done with it.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:39 am to Lsudx256
quote:We use solar panels on most of our electric fences. They work just fine. I guess we get more sun in Texas.
I have solar on my deer feeders. Constantly not working because there was overcast or just not great equipment.
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