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re: Marjorie Taylor Greene mocked for suggesting solar and wind energy don’t work at night
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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that companies aren't going to look for alternatives.
Companies that produce power or regular companies?
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:38 am to nugget
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Companies that produce power or regular companies?
Everyone is looking at renewables. Some of that is a matter of portfolio development, but most of it is a matter of self-preservation. Its not because renewables are cheaper than fossil.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:39 am to nugget
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Companies that produce power or regular companies?
Yes.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:40 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, some of these same idiots will look at a $500 power bill and think solar is too expensive or that companies aren't going to look for alternatives.
My average electric bill for the year, before the latest increases, was about $2400. I don't have to spend a penny up front on any equipment.
If you went the Tesla Powerwall set up you would get hit for $50K for equipment plus installation. That's almost 20 years of electric bills and the batteries start degraded the minute they start storing power.
You're being bamboozled into thinking solar is some kind of magic pill. "Oooooo, but I'm not on a grid." Yeah, dumbass, you are. You're on the fricking battery grid in your garage.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:41 am to billjamin
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I was referencing time to rebuild.
That has nothing to do with the point. Residential solar customers are not reinstalling their panels because the benefits arent there.
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You're neighbors are not indicative of how the bigger fleets are performing, both production or customer retention. I can only assume some Mormon EPC slinger came in and sold a bunch of shitty panels under a local or state incentive program. I hope they paid those loans off already or used insurance money to do so. With fuel surcharges doing what they have, and with a half way decently designed system there is quite a bit of savings.
Rank speculation
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:42 am to MightyYat
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MightyYat
Your biggest problem is that you have no fricking clue about anything outside of New Orleans.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:43 am to Vacherie Saint
Many large companies are trying to force energy providers into renewables because of their own regulation. Refineries and manufacturing plants are graded through ESG on where the electricity they burn comes from.
I wonder how many solar panels and batteries you’d need for a 13.6kv pump or compressor pulling 400 amps to run 24/7365. What about 20 of said pieces of equipment.
I wonder how many solar panels and batteries you’d need for a 13.6kv pump or compressor pulling 400 amps to run 24/7365. What about 20 of said pieces of equipment.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:43 am to Vacherie Saint
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I dont know anyone who is against a diversified energy portfolio including nuclear. I know a ton of people who are against manipulating the energy economy to force it before its organically commercially viable.
I'm not ok with market manipulation, but I am ok with subsidies to promote innovation, which the PTC and ITC do. And I'm personally pumped about the nuclear PTC. Maybe now some of the projects I've worked on can get off the ground.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:44 am to MightyYat
Ironically, the state grant programs force the adoption costs up to astronomical levels.
Look at the $7500 EV grant. The price of these cars are just going to go up by that amount.
Look at the $7500 EV grant. The price of these cars are just going to go up by that amount.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:45 am to Vacherie Saint
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That has nothing to do with the point. Residential solar customers are not reinstalling their panels because the benefits arent there.
You got any actual data to back that up? I do.
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You're neighbors are not indicative of how the bigger fleets are performing, both production or customer retention.
This is not speculation.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:47 am to hawkeye007
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12 pages on MTG,
12 pages on what MTG said and didn't say. With 1/2 of it consisting of taking a Daily Beast quality article that frames it "appears to suggest" than masturbating furiously as if she said it.
Hell, I even thought she did at first, I was just intelligent enough to actually read her statement (as opposed to the claims about her statement) before commenting. She's out there. Had she actually said what the article claimed I would have shook my head and moved on. But she didn't, the article lied, and folks get so invested in the lie because they've already contributed to the circle jerk that they'll just dig in and never admit they were duped.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:47 am to j1897
You're talking about Hillary right? Or Kamaltoe? Or Fatass Stacie? Or Dr. Dumbshit Jill?
Right?
Right?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:48 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Your biggest problem is that you have no fricking clue about anything outside of New Orleans.
So the people of New Orleans don't get your super special solar? Awesome.
Can you refute anything I'm saying though? Or what anyone is saying here? It's not an efficient or economical solution until that technology improves drastically and becomes affordable. And the fricking government shouldn't be the ones mandating shite. If people want solar. They should be able to get solar. If you want normal electricity. You get normal electricity. It's that simple. Acting like solar is some huge positive impact on the environment is nothing but con artist talk.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:50 am to billjamin
The nuclear industry doesn’t need subsidies to innovate. It just needs the Sierra Clubs of the world to get out of the way
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:52 am to Flats
The article quoted her. Did they misquote her? Are those not her words?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:53 am to nugget
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The nuclear industry doesn’t need subsidies to innovate. It just needs the Sierra Clubs of the world to get out of the way
Funny that all three nuclear deals I've done were not shot down by tree huggers but rather local NIMBYs burying an infantile project in litigation and running it out of money before it could even get into technical diligence.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:53 am to BayouBlitz
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Are those not her words?
You’re suggesting that she thinks everyone washes their clothes at night?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:54 am to billjamin
I just told you. I live in the Ida storm path and NO ONE is putting their panels back up. They were complaining about having to maintain these systems prior to the storm. The energy cost offsets are marginal and there are huge limitations for panel location on the average residential roof. The concept is good, but the price of fossil is still too low to pencil out for most Americans and you cant escape the regulated service providers in this model. Wind isnt an option here.
These panels also have a shelf life with no environmentally friendly recycling path currently available. Customers are facing a decade breakeven point with another decade of marginal benefits. They took the grants in the beginning, but when faced with readoption, they are saying "no thanks".
These panels also have a shelf life with no environmentally friendly recycling path currently available. Customers are facing a decade breakeven point with another decade of marginal benefits. They took the grants in the beginning, but when faced with readoption, they are saying "no thanks".
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:54 am to MightyYat
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So the people of New Orleans don't get your super special solar?
Sure they do. They also have different energy needs and solutions from other areas in the country.
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Can you refute anything I'm saying though?
Absolutely. Let's start with your personal claims about your energy costs and solar options. You're either not comparing apples to apples, or you're getting ripped off by some teenager selling solar door-to-door.
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And the fricking government shouldn't be the ones mandating shite.
I've said repeatedly, maybe ten times now, that I oppose government mandates.
My problem is people who claim to know what they're talking about, pretending that renewable energy isn't a workable option.
That, and morons who think the power goes out when the sun goes down.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:57 am to BayouBlitz
What's with the yuge down-vote ratio? (Is it as neg reaction to her "mockers"?)
Marjorie Taylor Greene is absolutely 100% spot on. What a savage truth warrior MTG is.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is absolutely 100% spot on. What a savage truth warrior MTG is.
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