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Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:16 am to DallasTiger11
Funny anecdote from the courtroom this morning as the Judge Ellis was about to send the jury off to deliberate - Judge calls out: "Mr. Trump, you're here for what??" Journalists and lawyers were startled--almost aghast. But judge was recognizing an EDVA prosecutor: Jim Trump. 
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:17 am to Damone
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There's just no way a lay jury is going to keep track of all those technical arguments.
Are you suggesting that will work for or against him?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:24 am to Y.A. Tittle
Against. I think they focus on the obvious tax return issue and implicate everything else.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:25 am to GumboPot
CNN has an article out sitting on thier hands waiting for the jury to announce a verdict.
They want so badly for Manafort to go to prison; yet fail to realize that Manafort, Gates and Podesta are business partners doing the same so called crimes. All of DC's lobbyists need locked up.
They want so badly for Manafort to go to prison; yet fail to realize that Manafort, Gates and Podesta are business partners doing the same so called crimes. All of DC's lobbyists need locked up.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:27 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:In this trial? 70-30. Unfortunately, he has another trial coming up in a month or so. That one is to be tried under auspices of the judge who already de facto sentenced Manafort to solitary.
What are the odds that Manafort gets off scott free?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:28 am to OchoDedos
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I heard recently Mueller didnt charge Manafort with all they had. They purposely held back to file in DC Federal Court as a backup, in case of a hung jury or acquittal.
As a former practicing attorney who lived in DC just long enough to not trust almost anyone, this possible course of action you described is highly unethical, an abuse of power and just a pure "shitshow". If the Special Counsel actually does this, the backlash could be ugly. Also, if Gates' attorney did his job in the Plea Agreement, the power offer his testimony should be gone or severally limited. Gates took the deal and testified so his obligation is complete. Not his fault if a Jury doesn't convict.
I see an IRS Audit in the future, no matter the verdict, and it will be deep and painful.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 9:32 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:29 am to GumboPot
How much trouble would Manaforts lawyers have been in had they directly attacked the credibility of Mueller himself?
I.e. that the only reason Manafort was charged here is to give credence to the conspiracy to attack Trump. That in essence this is a political trial with political motives to further a political cause?
I.e. that the only reason Manafort was charged here is to give credence to the conspiracy to attack Trump. That in essence this is a political trial with political motives to further a political cause?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:30 am to Damone
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Against. I think they focus on the obvious tax return issue and implicate everything else.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I would just suggest that seriously overcomplicating things can often go either way with a jury.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:35 am to The General
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the power offer his testimony should be gone or severally limited. Gates took the deal and testified so his obligation is complete.
He's still got the second Manafort trial and the terms of his deal were to testify if needed at any other trials the government brings in which he's offered information (he's also given info on the election conspiracy side of the investigation).
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:37 am to cajunangelle
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nangelle CNN has an article out sitting on thier hands waiting for the jury to announce a verdict. They want so badly for Manafort to go to prison; yet fail to realize that Manafort, Gates and Podesta are business partners doing the same so called crimes. All of DC's lobbyists need locked up.
I’ve made this statement before and I believe it to be true, if all the Swamp Dwellers were scrutinized like Trump and his baws are being scrutinized over 70% would face charges.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:38 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:burden of proof requirement in this case is "Beyond any reasonable doubt", and a guilty verdict has to unanimous. He's probably getting off on this round
haven't followed this very closesly. What are the odds that Manafort gets off scott free?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
Tigerdocs entire career on this board depends on this jury
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:44 am to SDVTiger
I'm on pins and needles.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:46 am to The General
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I see an IRS Audit in the future, no matter the verdict, and it will be deep and painful.
Best case scenario, Manafort avoids criminal convictions and gets slapped with a zillion dollar tax bill. He's financially fricked
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:47 am to TigerDoc
Is this true or false? Has Manafort done anything any differently than any other DC lobbyist in your opinion?
quote:If Podesta skates will you see the bias or just lie and say he had better lawyers?
The MSM and democrats want so badly for Manafort to go to prison; yet fail to realize that Manafort, Gates and Podesta are business partners doing the same so called crimes. All of DC's lobbyists need locked up.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
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"People do not get prosecuted by typical Justice Department prosecutors when what they have done is had some issue about whether their property is being rented or personally owned and it changes."
They do when they do it year after year.
He didn’t leave boxes unchecked. He checked them off as “NO”. That’s a problem.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:01 am to TigerDoc
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He's still got the second Manafort trial and the terms of his deal were to testify if needed at any other trials the government brings in which he's offered information (he's also given info on the election conspiracy side of the investigation).
I will reserve further comment until I see the full Plea Agreement, if that is even possible. What you describe could lead to serious unattended consequences for the Client (Gates). Perjury traps, no time barriers on testifying, open inquiries on "offered information." If it is as you say, Gate's attorney should have done better, but Gates may just be such a huge criminal that he was facing an effective life term. If that is the case, he would say anything to get out of the trap and his proffers are heavily tainted (which is always the risk with plea deals).
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:10 am to GumboPot
Who cares if he is found guilty?
He is scum and should go to prison. Everyone talks about the swamp and he is one of the worst in it.
It doesn’t matter if he is tied to Trump or not he is a criminal.
He is scum and should go to prison. Everyone talks about the swamp and he is one of the worst in it.
It doesn’t matter if he is tied to Trump or not he is a criminal.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:13 am to MizzouBS
So you agree there’s a swamp. Baby steps.
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