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MAGA supporter here: NO amnesty for Illegals or DACA kids

Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10274 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:15 am
Non-starter for me.

Trump better not legalize 11 million in exchange for a steel divider.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:17 am to
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NO amnesty for Illegals or DACA kids


Did I miss something? Is this a deal being discussed right now?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42623 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:20 am to
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Non-starter for me.

Trump better not legalize 11 million in exchange for a steel divider.


My sentiments exactly - but I don't think it is pragmatic. There will have to be some concession

I just demand that NO SUFFRAGE accompany any 'amnesty' agreement - At LEAST 20 years of self sufficiency must be demonstrated before granting rights to vote.

and NO AMNESTY for anyone who has survived off the welfare state benefits for more than 3 months = they ALL MUST GO = along with their offspring.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:20 am to
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Is this a deal being discussed right now?

One of several......I'm not for amnesty either
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10274 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:20 am to
That’s the give the Dems want in exchange for the steel erection.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79188 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:21 am to
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Trump better not legalize 11 million in exchange for a steel divider.


All that would do is legitimize why they came in the first place. I'm against it as well.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:22 am to
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Trump better not legalize 11 million in exchange for a steel divider.

Even IF he were to do this, I can guarantee you that the Democrats would take the amnesty then renig on the wall.

Build the wall FIRST.
Then we can discuss other shite.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:22 am to
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That’s the give the Dems want in exchange for the steel erection



I'm sure that's what Dems want, but they won't get it
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20352 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:22 am to
The thing is they're already here. And they're not leaving by force or otherwise.

Give me the wall. Whatever it takes.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67964 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:25 am to
I can compromise on permanent residency for DACA but not citizenship.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:29 am to
As long as we get the wall I'm okay with a graduated amesty over 5-10 year period for DACA "kids". They are basically assimilated already and probably most of them are productive. Might as well get them on a path to citizenship and get the wall in exchange.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12104 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:33 am to
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I can compromise on permanent residency for DACA but not citizenship.

You really believe that the Dems won’t give them citizenship as soon as they have the power?

Ask Reagan about making compromises with Democrats over immigration.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:35 am
Posted by MorgusTheMagnificent
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
1852 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:34 am to
If trump leagalizes 11M aliens and gets the wall it’s a win-win.

Win1: gets the wall
Win2: earns at least half or more of the 11M votes

6D chess
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:35 am to
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Ask Reagan about making compromises with Democrats over immigration.

This.
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:36 am to
I agree on no amnesty, but some sort of legal status will be necessary - IMO
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46150 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:37 am to
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Non-starter for me. Trump better not legalize 11 million in exchange for a steel divider.


Personally, I don't have a problem with giving legal status to DACA immigrants....., with just a couple of caveats. National Voter ID is part of the legislation and DACA immigrants are ineligible to vote in national elections. I guess if you had to give legal status to the DACA immigrants illegal parents they would have to be under strict laws that would immediately deport them for any serious crimes. Dims would never agree to my proposal because millions of illegals would never be eligible to vote Dim.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:44 am to
We went from talking about ending birthright citizenship (stretch I know) to potentially giving DACA citizenship

amazing how the goalposts move
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:49 am to
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I can compromise on permanent residency for DACA but not citizenship.


I think that is fair. Still needs to be done by statute as opposed to EO.

I am also not completely opposed to residency for working illegal ailiens. Our demographics will cause some legit issues if millions of working bodies are removed from the economy.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:48 am to
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I agree on no amnesty, but some sort of legal status will be necessary - IMO


This is not a bad strategy but will end up in full legal status though the courts in a few years.

But it accomplishes a few of goals:

1. Get the wall.
2. Legal status slow walked.
3. Based fired up again after the courts rule that they are citizens.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81840 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:50 am to
It's fine to say this and I hope its doable, but Trump needs a win on the funding at this point after 2 years of GOP control and nothing.
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