re: LSU NOLA Med School Entrance Requirements

Good on ya for being a good sport, ya bastahd.

For some reason US born Asian chicks don't get the preferential treatment.

quote:

---

NC Tigah posted the hard data in graph form.

---

it is dated and limited.

Here is current data in a table format. LINK

Basically men score 1 point higher on the MCAT. Men and women have the exact same GPA. This is your smoking gun, I guess.

quote:

---

The image I posted had nothing to do with gender, btw.

---

I didn’t really understand why you re-posted it immediately before shifting the discussion to gender.

Then called me out for disregarding it…

quote:

---

They're aware, but I'm not sure that it's permitted in the consideration of individual applicants w/r/t gender. I'd be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong about that, though.

---

If we look at this through the lens of capitalism, it makes sense to have women practitioners at a ratio close to the ratio of women patients. It’s long been documented that medical concerns of women (even white women) are often disregarded by male doctors (of all races). Because of this, many women prefer women doctors to men doctors.

quote:

---

it is dated and limited.

---

So you admit it is data.

What part of this post you made is factual data?

quote:

---

This white guy likely bombed his interview but DEI gets blamed for his failure to get into his school of choice.

---

There is no data used for your assertion. At all. You just made an assertion based on your own Karen level bias.

You lost.

quote:

---

If we look at this through the lens of capitalism, it makes sense to have women practitioners at a ratio close to the ratio of women patients.

---

No. It makes no sense ITR, as has been discussed. It might make social sense as in the preference issue you cite.

quote:

---

many women prefer women doctors to men doctors.

---

Now there is a far more reasonable argument, albeit dubious as a generality.

quote:

---

medical concerns of women (even white women) are often disregarded by male doctors

---

Not a legitimate assertion. There are isolated older US studies involving heart patient outcomes. But those were also impacted by anatomic/physiologic gender differences.

quote:

---

So when they asked him how he would treat a person who identified as a gender other than their birth gender (or however they phrased it), he responded that he would be treating the underlying medical problem based upon the information available to him.

---

quote:

---

I know that semi-sane progressives want to pretend that wokeism isn’t really affecting decisions like this. But they are.

---

You are getting second hand info. Speaking as someone who was asked specifically during one of my med school interviews long long ago, how I would treat a patient if I came across a swastika tattoo or other sign that he patient may be a white supremacist during a physical exam, I understand the spirit of the question. AKA, if you come across someone with very differing political views, even if their views would widely be considered abhorrent, would you put that all aside and still put the patient and their needs first. Maybe his answer was 100% reasonable. Maybe he made it seem like he would allow his personal ideology to affect how he would take care of this patient population

The latter will always get you quickly rejected from any med school.

quote:

---

So when they asked him how he would treat a person who identified as a gender other than their birth gender (or however they phrased it), he responded that he would be treating the underlying medical problem based upon the information available to him. They started pressing him asking him to say the magic words of something along the lines of “treating them while respecting their gender identity.”

---

This is where state law shouldcome into effect. Questions like this should not be allowed in the interview process. Whether or not you “respect their gender identity,“ should have nothing to do with how you treat them nor should it have anything to do with whether or not you’re admitted into medical school.

Any kid who has asked that question and has more than The average typical grades and scores for that med school, should be able to sue that school for both admittance and major damages should they not get in.

Medical schools have no f*cking business indoctrinating their students, or even prospective students, into their demented and warped far left political ideology.

Statistics are easy to misinterpret when they are oversimplified. Medical schools also have to look at how a student t got to where they are.

First off, how many AA’s are getting into these programs? It’s easy to have significant shifts in those numbers based on low sample size vs the larger sample size for whites, Asians; etc. It doesn’t mean it’s right, but details matter.

Secondly, how does it break down by income level? AAs and Hispanics are significantly lower in mean income than Whites and Asians. Should only kids that can afford tutors, not having to work to survive in college, paying to take MCAT classes to improve their scores, having more free time to volunteer and be involved in student organizations be who we allow to become doctors?

I hate that there is definitely some aspects of education that allow for improper use of DEI to destroy meaningful efforts. I have been negatively affected by this in my career, but didn’t let it stop me. I also know that medical, law and grad schools shite on these kids to try and meet theoretical diversity by failing them. They bring in kids that need more support, but just throw them in and let them sink.

Now, in reality, whether you see a poor White kid, Black kid, Asian kid, or anything else kid that is less qualified should not be accepted into a program based on that if those programs aren’t going to set you up for success. If they are just using you to meet some stupid metric, then they are evil.

I have seen this first hand. Kids getting into programs that are bright, hardworking and deserving of a shot, but left to flounder because their background (educational/financial) didn’t permit them to get the full training needed to succeed at the next phase. This actually makes things worse for everyone, because now you reinforce the false narrative that those types of kids cannot succeed.

With all that said, it’s much easier to get good grades and test scores now more than ever. College is much easier and the MCAT has been made much less daunting. Add in more resources for preparing for the tests, especially if you have money to do those, and you get a lot of kids with top notch scores not being accepted.

Is it right? No, but why not blame the AMA and doctors as a whole for limiting the number of spots so tightly to help keep their salaries inflated? Then these kids wouldn’t have such a hard time finding the right program and getting their shot.