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re: Lori Loughlin 'terrified,' 'stressed' about new college admissions scandal charges

Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:30 pm to
i will say this. one major issue is that with the feds, it moves so fricking fast in the beginning

we're talking like, a week or less. it's easy to make a bad judgment call in that kind of compressed timeline

i mean shite the 1st superseding indictment came IMMEDIATELY after she refused
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Such bull shite.


Yes it is.
Rich parents using money to take away athletic scholarships from deserving applicants is bull shite.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:32 pm to
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“They feel like this is David versus Goliath,"


Kind of like how people who can’t just buy their way through life feel about a lot of stuff.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:33 pm to
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And y’all are like the militant pro Kaepernick crowd who celebrate white people like Laughlin and Martha Stewart being overly prosecuted



Are they being overly prosecuted? My understanding is that there are 40-50 people hit with this investigation and they were all offered pretty much the same deal. We just hear about the celebrities because our culture is obsessed with them, but I don't think she's getting treated any better or worse than the other regular joes.

She's also an idiot. Feds can and will ruin you (see Flynn) regardless of your guilt, and she's absolutely guilty. They offered her a deal and she's a moron for turning it down. I'm not celebrating but I'm not losing sleep over it either.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:33 pm to
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e're talking like, a week or less. it's easy to make a bad judgment call in that kind of compressed timeline

i mean shite the 1st superseding indictment came IMMEDIATELY after she refused




Yeah. I do think that it is fricky to not allow a person to process what they are facing and then plead.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:34 pm to
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You'd be pissed if your kid was the last one without a musical chair b/c of some 80's has-been with a rich hubby.



Umm that happens to all white and Asian people millions of times per year in both academia and professional settings. It's called Affirmative Action.

I agree that Loughlin deserves some type of sentence but the prosecutors gleefully going after her with their fangs out is political and reprehensible.

There is zero reason for her to face actual jail time, and anyone who supports / celebrates that is a POS. Fine her for 2 to 3 times the amount she tried to bribe and sentence her to community service or (worst case) house arrest. She poses ZERO threat and this is basically a victimless crime.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Weren't they offered a plea deal that would have been a slap on the wrist? Should have admitted guilt and moved on.




Depends on what you call a slap on the wrist. The deal that Huffman took created a recommendation of "4 to 10 months". The deal that Macfarland took has a recommendation of "15 months". I'm not sure that much time is a "slap on the wrist". It may only be that in connection with the fact that the Feds are seeking a sentence that carries up to 40 years.

There were reports yesterday that the parties were close to another deal. The US attorneys office would look pretty bad if they did a long trial and the judge treated this the same way that Huffman was treated, namely drastically reducing down the sentence. The new charge coincidentally appeared after talks of a new plea deal started to be leaked.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:34 pm to
No fan of the FBI or government in general, but this results from her arrogance in the face of seeking to escape accountability. She was caught red handed, but continually has stuff leaked seeking to gain some sympathy.

Perp walk it, Becky!
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Umm that happens to all white and Asian people millions of times per year in both academia and professional settings. It's called Affirmative Action.




Dude, they committed a crime. frick Fed Goons. But, let's stop defending this as if it is nothing.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Are they being overly prosecuted?


In general-- that is likely a matter of opinion, but I'd say yes. The US attorney's office is flexing and a bit worried about not getting sentences.

In respect to the other defendants-- it does not appear so. Deals appear to be pretty consistent. The differences so far appear to be on timing, the amount of the bribes and whether they were funneled through charity.

Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:39 pm to
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I do think that it is fricky to not allow a person to process what they are facing and then plead.


The feds don’t give a shite.

They’re not about helping people they accuse of being criminals, they’re in the business of winning cases, obtaining convictions and getting the harshest sentence possible.

And Lori Loughlin is learning that the hard way.

It’s a good example of why having competent, skilled, knowledgeable and experienced counsel is so important.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:41 pm to
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I agree that Loughlin deserves some type of sentence but the prosecutors gleefully going after her with their fangs out is political and reprehensible.

There is zero reason for her to face actual jail time, and anyone who supports / celebrates that is a POS. Fine her for 2 to 3 times the amount she tried to bribe and sentence her to community service or (worst case) house arrest. She poses ZERO threat and this is basically a victimless crime


It’s not victimless. Her kid consumed a constrained resource that was limited for someone that didn’t pay the bribe.

But you are right about the feds being ridiculous. Her husband doesn’t fit in politically for Hollywood. I suspect that is an influencing factor....but that doesn’t change the fact that she clearly should have taken the damn plea.

They have the evidence and are going in fangs out to make an example.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:42 pm to
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It should not be a crime anyway. It’s BS



Money laundering, mail fraud, and bribery shouldn't be crimes?
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3038 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:43 pm to
Wtf is wrong with the people thinking bribery shouldn’t be illegal? Go live in a third world shithole if that’s what you believe where you have to pay off every cop you graze past.

For the congregation of hypocrites shall be desolate, and fire shall consume the tabernacles of bribery.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33087 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Yeah. I do think that it is fricky to not allow a person to process what they are facing and then plead.


It’s definitely not on the up and up. They are choosing her and her husband to make an example out of.....

...but it’s hard to defend her because she absolutely broke the law, then was arrogant enough to think she’d break a near perfect conviction rate. It’s hard to sympathize with her because most of us don’t go around bribing people.

Why aren’t prosecutors going after Smollet with such vigor? He committed a federal crime the second he slipped an envelope with white powder and a threat letter in the mail. And he did it more than once before lying to police.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Shoulda pleaded


Or not broken the law.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Martha Stewart being overly prosecuted
MS went to jail for lying to govt agents (Brown coats) about alleged crime they didn't charge her with, a crime Congressmen are legally allowed to do. Lying to govt agents should be protected by the 1st Amendment.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:51 pm to
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In general-- that is likely a matter of opinion, but I'd say yes. The US attorney's office is flexing and a bit worried about not getting sentences.

In respect to the other defendants-- it does not appear so. Deals appear to be pretty consistent. The differences so far appear to be on timing, the amount of the bribes and whether they were funneled through charity.


But "deals" implies that they took the deal. If someone else turned down the deal and is getting treated much better than actress chick then you could call it unfair.

I fully expect bureaucrats to bureaucrat and someone trying to make a name for themselves over this is expected. I just haven't seen anything that indicates she's getting treated better or worse than everybody else they caught in this investigation.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17132 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:51 pm to
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There is zero reason for her to face actual jail time, and anyone who supports / celebrates that is a POS. Fine her for 2 to 3 times the amount she tried to bribe and sentence her to community service or (worst case) house arrest. She poses ZERO threat and this is basically a victimless crime.



That will teach rich folks not to break the law... If you get caught, just pay a fine (that is meaningless to you) and you walk free.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:53 pm to
So, one of her daughters was on a yacht with a USC board member when the news of the scandal broke. That’s not a coincidence.
My theory is they were hoping she’d be a controlled media personality- I.e. push whatever lines we give you, or we’ll reveal you’re a fraud. The daughter needs to retake the SAT, go to school on her own merits, and appreciate living life without having something hanging over your head.

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