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re: Looks like Pfizer and Moderna vaccines may also be causing blood clots

Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:05 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21692 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:05 am to
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And you studied medicine where ? ...... Thought so. Frick off



Even if if he was a MD and quoted the same statistic... Is he wrong?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135499 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:08 am to
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COVID itself is ~10x more likely to cause clots

More like 80-100x.
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And you studied medicine where ? ...... Thought so. Frick off
This kind of bullshite response always cracks me up. Where'd you do your medical training, RooBoy?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30651 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:16 am to
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He died in his sleep. That happens at 87

Tragically that's the case. I knew a man who died in his sleep at the age of 82, from a ruptured abdominal aortic aneurysm. He had no preexisting conditions such as blood pressure or cholesterol, and in fact remained physically active and had recently played tennis and could beat young men half his age.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10986 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:26 am to
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He died in his sleep. That happens at 87


Which also happened to thousands of people that were counted as Covid deaths as well.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17055 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:47 am to
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And you studied medicine where ? ...... Thought so. Frick off
You poor thing
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:57 am to
That bald dude dancing around trying to figure out what to do has me cracking up.

Can't tell if he doesn't know what to do or realized he doesn't have his mask on. Ha (which looks like he dropped when he got up)

So what's the story about this woman passing out? I heard about it when it happened but hadn't heard the follow up excuse
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:59 am to
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Do you even realize how insanely rare those numbers actually are? Birth control, for example, causes that many issues per million. JJ produced as many as it did per 6.8 million. Over 869 million vaccines have been given and those issues are far from widespread or even anything to think twice about.



I don't think I ever agree with you on anything but we need a primer on risk aversion and what is reasonable.

We just don't need Democrats leading it because they would frick it up.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60136 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:03 am to
I dug into this a bit. It’s pediatricians who are sounding this alarm based on the event data and weighing the outcomes.

For children: 0% chance of death with COVID vs. the same if, if not higher long term chance of sickness death as COVID via blood clots with the vaccine.

TLDR; you are a freaking retard if you give kids these vaccines
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 7:05 am
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3404 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:05 am to
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Do you even realize how insanely rare those numbers actually are? Birth control, for example, causes that many issues per million. JJ produced as many as it did per 6.8 million. Over 869 million vaccines have been given and those issues are far from widespread or even anything to think twice about.


So now risk logic is okay?
It risk vs reaction was the focus, we would never have shut down the world, never created a vaccine in the first place.
You are
Moving the goal posts around as usual.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 7:08 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52003 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:06 am to
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COVID itself is ~10x more likely to cause clots

This is the point that that vaccine skeptics miss. Getting Covid carries risks. There are two paths you can choose: getting the vaccine or not getting it. If you avoid the risks inherent in a vaccine then you take on the risks of getting Covid. And the latter are demonstrably higher than the former.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20920 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:17 am to
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You guys are going to cheer this on and then cry when the politicians inevitably take advantage of vaccines being slowed or halted


Cheer it nope, we are just experienced enough to know that regardless of what it is or is for you wait a year to let the manufacturer work out the bugs before you buy it. We also understand, through experience, that the folks buying it the first 6 months to a year are expected to find the issues the manufacturer missed in R&D. We know this because we have seen it happen almost every time some new product is released. That’s why we are generally not chasing new products.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50853 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:19 am to
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The "vaccine" already killed Hank Aaron

You have confirmation that the vaccine is unquestionably what killed him?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39874 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:20 am to
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I'm pretty sure that's the thinking of Harris County judge Lina Hidalgo. She has ordered the county's COVID threat level to remain at Code Red even though most Texas counties have relaxed their restrictions. It's preemptive, in the event of widespread vaccine mishaps and necessity to go full lockdown.



She is just covering her arse, her power has been nurtured. So she is crying wolf but spinning it as playing safe. We have been in threat level red for months which hasn’t reflected reality outside of June and holiday season
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135499 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:23 am to
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0% chance of death with COVID
Pediatric death d/t CV19 is rare, but it does occur.
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the same if, if not higher long term chance of sickness death as COVID via blood clots with the vaccine.
False.
But again, the numbers are exceedingly low, regardless.

In the end, CV19 is a lesser threat to kids than most strains of the annual flu. So not very serious. Certainly not enough to warrant requisite vaccination.

So if someone was to formally propose not vaccinating kids, it wouldn't be unreasonable.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19127 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:25 am to
So if both COVID and the vaccine could cause blood clots, a logical person would conclude that in a small % of the pop the immune response to COVID causes clots.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8963 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:25 am to
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For children: 0% chance of death with COVID vs. the same if, if not higher long term chance of sickness death as COVID via blood clots with the vaccine.


Yet the alarm form the CDC states ...The recent rise in cases are the direct result of infections is ....children and the young.

When the Government stops letting trash into the southern border, then distributes that untested un documented trash through our the country...maybe I'll listen. Until then ....get that demented Puppet out of the White House.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23229 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:26 am to
And worsening effects of Parkinson’s
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20920 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:27 am to
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You have confirmation that the vaccine is unquestionably what killed him?


Can you find his cause of death? I can’t. All I can find is he died in his sleep and they are very vocal about they are super duper, 100% sure and want to publicly state it definitely wasn’t a Covid vaccine. Which seems odd because they will not actually list a cause of death and it seems like it was just written off as natural causes. To go from health to dead like that without any explanation and the over the top it’s not the vaccine just seems odd.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60136 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:29 am to
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False. But again, the numbers are exceedingly low, regardless.


How can you say false to a long term “chance”? No one knows at this point - but the pediatricians are making a conjecture that the chances of blood clots never decrease over time while the mRNA vaccine is active - meaning the risk could AT LEAST stay or possibly worsen.

And for the small kids that died “of COVID” - based on what we truly know now about COVID’s affect on children - I have my doubts.

But I’ll concede one or two may have died from it under the age of 5 for the sake of discussion.

As a doctor, looking at what we KNOW, there is no reason for a child to take these vaccines. Their concern, based on where we are, is we know we are introducing unnecessary risks to children given the event outcomes we are starting to see.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 7:32 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79106 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:30 am to
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Code Red


She could use one of those.
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