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re: Looks like Pfizer and Moderna vaccines may also be causing blood clots

Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:40 am to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:40 am to
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The chances of getting a blood clot from a COVID infection are astronomically higher than getting one as a side effect of the vaccines
still debatable. We don’t even know for sure how many cases/deaths there have been. Particularly given the asymptomatic cases
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:40 am to
Covid causes clotting
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:42 am to
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Odd premise
not at all. It's been widely discussed by countless people

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mRNA vaccines have been studied for 30 years
and yet are still highly experimental and we have no idea what the long term effects are

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We have as good an idea as to "long term effects" as we do with traditional vaccines
totally false. They have NEVER been widely distributed for public use
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8817 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:43 am to
Additionally, the shot is a conscious choice. If there is any risk, why take the risk? For those who are healthy, not scared of Covid, and have already lived through a year of it, the risk in the vaccine seems excessive, even if currently debatable
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:47 am to
Human experiment gonna human experiment
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:49 am to
Of course no one ever got blood clots without getting the vaccine
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17907 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:12 am to
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Of course no one ever got blood clots without getting the vaccine

Of course old fat people with emphysema, diabetes, a medical history that includes 3 heart attacks and a stroke never died before COVID.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123929 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:15 am to
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totally false. They have NEVER been widely distributed for public use
It's predicated on knowns. Your statement is kind of like saying an outfielder can throw a baseball, but if we ask him to throw a wrench, we don't know if it will ever leave his hand because he's never thrown one.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34151 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:21 am to
[quote]quote: Others should make rational risk assessment/quote]

[quote]COVID itself is ~10x more likely to cause clots [quote]

So still statistically irrelevant.

frick off with your fear porn.

Jab yourself if you want to. I will pass.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34151 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:29 am to
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We have as good an idea as to "long term effects" as we do with traditional vaccines


We will agree to disagree.

I still don’t get the push from Google. Facebook, IG, Twitter etc.

I don’t find this type of stuff to be “informational” in nature, as much as it is psychological. For example:

Google Commits Millions for Vaccine Shots and Online PSAs
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:31 am to
This thread is so full of emotion and disputing "facts" that it should be whacked. This serves no purpose, whatsoever.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123929 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:40 am to
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I don’t find this type of stuff to be “informational” in nature, as much as it is psychological. For example:
It's all political entrenchment. Libs stake out a position. Conservatives oppose it. Conservatives stake out a position. Libs oppose it. Science be damned. Mask mandates for immune individuals is the perfect example. Makes zero scientific sense, but since cons have been dubious about mask mandates, libs are hellbent on extending them ... forever, if possible.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9955 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:48 am to
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Those were deadly conditions that even preyed on children. COVID is something most don’t even know they have.


Most people with polio similarly had no or little response, fyi. Paralysis was a rare reaction. 99.95% had no long term effect.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12896 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:51 am to
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The former chief scientist for Pfizer said the only reason you would ever make a vaccine for something as non lethal as covid is population control - pay attention.


What do you think population control means in this context and what long term benefit is the cost buying?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Your statement is kind of like saying an outfielder can throw a baseball, but if we ask him to throw a wrench, we don't know if it will ever leave his hand because he's never thrown one.
that's a completely stupid analogy because people throw things like wrenches all the time. We know full well what will happen. Mrna vaccines have never been used by the general public and certainly not for a novel virus.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:23 pm to
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This thread is so full of emotion and disputing "facts" that it should be whacked
tell me what I said that's not factual
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Most people with polio similarly had no or little response, fyi. Paralysis was a rare reaction. 99.95% had no long term effect
You're not comparing polio to this situation are you?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34151 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:34 pm to
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It's all political entrenchment. Libs stake out a position. Conservatives oppose it. Conservatives stake out a position. Libs oppose it. Science be damned.


Perhaps.

In my case, however, I could give two shits from a political perspective. My take since day 1 has not changed. I don’t trust big pharma. As such, until more is truly known about the long term effects, taking a Covid vaccine is a no go for me. The ONLY one that I would even remotely consider is the Johnson & Johnson one.

As for the push to vaccinate by the technocrats, it doesn’t pass the smell test imho.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34151 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:37 pm to
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This thread is so full of emotion and disputing "facts" that it should be whacked. This serves no purpose, whatsoever.


Well aren’t you the morally presumptuous one, determining what conversation has value.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9955 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 1:56 pm to
Uh no? Someone else did, i just pointed out that it wasn't the death sentence people think of it in 2021
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