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Look at us keeping Israel afloat... Wait, I mean Poland.

Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16649 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:36 pm
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The United States will lend Poland $4 billion (€3.5 billion), it was announced on Friday, June 12th. The funds will come from the Foreign Military Financing programme, according to the U.S. Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security, Thomas DiNanno, allowing further arms purchases.

DiNanno was speaking at an event to mark the inaugural flight of three F-35 jets bought from the U.S. (with more deliveries scheduled by 2029). A total of $20 billion (€17.3 billion) is now available to the country, which borders troubled Ukraine to its east.

I love the Poles, but this fantasy that we don't send equivalent or greater amounts of money to anyone but Israel is repeatedly proven as false. Same reason we send money to Israel, but nobody says a word.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47241 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

but this fantasy that we don't send equivalent or greater amounts of money to anyone but Israel is repeatedly proven as false.


What kind of a straw man is this?
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38432 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

this fantasy that we don't send equivalent or greater amounts of money to anyone but Israel is repeatedly proven as false.


Yep. 1 hundo.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
319 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:41 pm to
Now do Israel
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71498 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:43 pm to
Good. Poland rocks and we should make sure they maintain their soverignty and stay awesome.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16649 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:50 pm to
I've posted the list and the amounts we send countries repeatedly. $15B to Ukraine, we're sending over a billion dollars a year to eight other countries (including such standouts as Afghanistan, Sudan, Jordan, Congo, etc.) but it's the $3-6b we give to Israel that they use to buy shite from our defense contractors is somehow the straw the broke the camel's back.

quote:

A straw man argument is a logical fallacy where someone misrepresents an opponent's argument to make it easier to attack, rather than addressing the actual argument being made.

I'm the one that made the argument, I'll wait for your straw man argument.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21865 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:51 pm to
Yeah but does Poland go around starting wars and dragging us into it? Or do they mind their own business?
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:53 pm
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1214 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:52 pm to
Lend?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26418 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I love the Poles

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47241 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

I'm the one that made the argument, I'll wait for your straw man argument.


It's clear you didn't understand the argument I was making by citing your straw man.

Nobody believes we only send money to Israel or that Israel is the country that we send money the most to. We've contributed hundreds of billions to Ukraine in the past 4 years alone. Your original argument in the OP is a straw man
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65884 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:40 pm to
I don't remember us double-tap bombing a school for Poland.

Also, "lend"
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
Ole Miss Law School
Member since Oct 2022
4206 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:44 pm to
where do you think a large percentage of fake "Israelis" came from?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24271 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:45 pm to
Ukraine is getting good at producing drones. All while a "nuclear superpower" has tried to crush their country. They are some badasses. I'd want to be on their side. They are not pussies like the rest of Western Europe.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3960 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:54 pm to
The most corrupt country in Europe by far stealing most of the money we send as well as selling the equipment we give. frick Ukraine
Posted by Wareagle1990
Member since May 2026
168 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:58 pm to
So they’re receiving significantly less than Israel. Still a lot of money, but let’s not pretend Israel isn’t the biggest benefactor of American foreign aid. It’s not even close.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97575 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Good. Poland rocks and we should make sure they maintain their soverignty and stay awesome.


Agreed. Poland has some baws.

Do these “loans” ever actually get paid back or are they always forgiven?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13434 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:18 am to
quote:

Nobody believes we only send money to Israel or that Israel is the country that we send money the most to.

There are a large number of idiots in this country that believe exactly that.
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