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re: LOL- Prior Ukraine President opened Biden investigation months before Trump call

Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:43 am to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23286 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:43 am to
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Apply this same logic to Trump using his authority as POTUS to facilitate opposition research..and all of a sudden we agree.



Nope.

You never answered my question.

If Biden hadn’t entered the race, given how much trump loathes the corrupt Obama administration, would he still have wanted Biden investigated?

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:50 am to
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You never answered my question.

If Biden hadn’t entered the race, given how much trump loathes the corrupt Obama administration, would he still have wanted Biden investigated?



Who can say?

What we can (and do) know is that this kicked off about 6 days after Biden announced he was running. Rudy G says he was doing it at the request of the state dept, that Trump knew of it and supported it, and that it wasn't foreign policy.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23286 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 6:55 am to
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Who can say?


Reasonable people.

Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19368 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:20 am to
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These people better get arrested and not just embarrassed like tick tock said!


This - because you can "embarrass" me all day long for 100k a month. I'd just pay someone else to deal with it.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 7:22 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:34 am to
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Reasonable people.



Reasonable people would expect the president to formally open an investigation instead of offering access for an investigation
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13016 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:42 am to
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Reasonable people would expect the president to formally open an investigation


You're right. Trump should have just had the republicans manufacture a Biden dossier full of lies and disinformation, and use it to fraudulently spy on Biden's campaign.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:43 am to
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You're right. Trump should have just had the republicans manufacture a Biden dossier full of lies and disinformation, and use it to fraudulently spy on Biden's campaign.


You haven't heard that *Rudy created one? It was probably Rudy
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74354 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:45 am to
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You haven't heard that *Rudy created one? It was probably Rudy


Since you are always spot on with your analysis it probably was
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17297 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:48 am to
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You're right. Trump should have just had the republicans manufacture a Biden dossier full of lies and disinformation, and use it to fraudulently spy on Biden's campaign.
There's still time for him to do that on Warren, Bernie, Biden, all the rest too. It's just so unnecessary since they are self destructing.

But the precedent is there. Following this new tradition he'd be in the clear to enlist CIA/FBI/Foreign Agents and govts. Secret courts and secret agents, spies, propaganda, the entire Cold War apparatus back to work but turned against Americans in politics.

Dims started it, as usual, they didn't couldn't see past the end of their own nose though.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:56 am to
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Trump not paying taxes and y’all saying he was smart for gaming the system, were any laws broken?


This is propaganda. Trump used provisions in the tax code, just like any other large or small business in the USA. Perfectly legal and smart. Absolutely not gaming the system.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5635 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:22 am to
Mickey Goldmill

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It was closed in May. Or at least it was determined in May that they had nothing on the Bidens.


I have no idea if it is true or not what you write, however, the vast majority of your posting is worthless crap. Can you do me a favor, since you have actual intimate knowledge, provide all of us with the actual source of your statement.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58200 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:27 am to
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But the precedent is there. Following this new tradition he'd be in the clear to enlist CIA/FBI/Foreign Agents and govts. Secret courts and secret agents, spies, propaganda, the entire Cold War apparatus back to work but turned against Americans in politics.


Except for one glaring difference. Most of the Deep State swamp dwellers are leftists and would never aid a Republican to hurt a Dem.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6568 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:56 am to
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ay 16, 2019: Bloomberg quotes Ukraine’s current top prosecutor as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter Biden or his father.
They MAY NOT have broken any Ukrainian laws, but that doesn’t mean any American laws were not broken.

We literally have facts and video evidence from Joe Biden admittedly bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government for the financial benefit of his son.

Yet you don’t think that is worthy of investigating but are more than happy to investigate Trump with no evidence?

You people are delusional and hypocritical
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23123 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:57 am to
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They MAY NOT have broken any Ukrainian laws, but that doesn’t mean any American laws were not broken.



Never said anything about American laws. We are talking about the Ukraine investigation.

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We literally have facts and video evidence from Joe Biden admittedly bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government for the financial benefit of his son.



You know as well as I do there is a counter argument to that, but its been discussed plenty already.

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Yet you don’t think that is worthy of investigating but are more than happy to investigate Trump with no evidence?



I've said before- have Barr look into it as deep as he wants. No issue with that at all.
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You people are delusional and hypocritical



And you need to work on your comprehension skills
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