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re: LGBTQ teacher scolds muslim children for skipping school pride event

Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:14 pm to
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If it doesn't violate the establishment clause to say the homosexuality is morally normal and acceptable, then it doesn't violate it to say the opposite.
Stating that opinion would not remotely violate the Establishment Clause, no. What the heck have I ever said that would make you think otherwise?
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You'd be OK with ... A "Gay is Unnatural Day" where kids are told that it's deviant and not part of Mother Nature's plan.
It would not violate the Establishment Clause. From a policy perspective, I would not support my local district holding such an event, because I think the underlying premise is inaccurate. In most places, I suspect that the majority of local voters would agree with me.

Is there some remote hick town where the majority agree with that sentiment and want to hold that event? Perhaps, and I see nothing in the Constitution that would prevent them from doing so.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42292 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:16 pm to
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In the meantime its pushed on kids because?


Tboy said that’s not being done, especially not in libraries.

However, he also won’t reply to the following:

Low-t wrote:
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And BTW, kids get porn on their phones, not on library shelves


I responded:

What would you consider this to be?

quote: Blowies Oral sex is popping another dudes peen in your mouth, or indeed, popping yours in his. There is only one hard and fast rule when it comes to blow jobs - WATCH THE TEETH Lips and tongue, yes; teeth, NO. As with hand jobs and breakfast eggs, all men like their blow jobs served in different ways. The term blow job is massively misleading, as you won't actually be blowing on his penis - it's more about sucking (although I stress you’re not trying to suck his kidneys out through his urethra). It’s more about sliding your mouth up and down the shaft of his cock. Letting a guy cum in your mouth is a safe sex no-no. Get away from the volcano before it erupts. In fact, be aware that many sexually transmitted infections (STI) are often spread through oral sex.

It is designated for 12 year olds.

Public library, public funds.


He won’t respond.

Hank, do you care to weigh in?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:17 pm to
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I see nothing in the Constitution that would prevent them from doing so.


It doesn't matter what you see, it matters what the courts see. I don't think you're dishonest enough to claim that "separation of church and state" is applied equally and without prejudice, and this is a perfect example. It just doesn't bother you because anybody with a different moral code (which you don't actually believe in as anything more than personal opinions) is a hick.

Good talk.
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
626 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:18 pm to
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To what do you attribute that exponential increase?


Along with a general abandonment of Judeo Christian values, family values, and traditional American values, I have a theory.

Victimhood is celebrated in this country more than anything now. A person can’t simply change their skin color or ethnicity, but they can change their sexuality. I think for many young people, it can start as just “identifying” as a certain sexual preference so as to be hip with the trend. Then many go full fledge into the lifestyle because they are typecast at that point, or they go down the rabbit hole. I think most serial killers probably didn’t set out to be so, but the rabbit hole got em.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:18 pm to
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the more-general level of acceptance


This is what I want to talk about.

If a greater general level of acceptance results in more people living that lifestyle, whether they are experimenting or simply feel comfortable coming out of the closet, isn't it disingenuous to claim that Pride Month for little children during which adult authority figures communicate that GAY IS OK has not bearing on whether those children will grow up expressing that lifestyle?

Whether Pride Month includes sexually explicit descriptions of gay sex or not?

To me that sounds like saying, "You're all hysterical, nothing will come of teaching young children that gay os ok," but then when asked for the reason why so many more young people are getting their gay on, you answer, "Because we've taught them that gay is o.k."

Either it has an effect or it doesn't.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27007 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Hank, do you care to weigh in?


He already did.

Said that it was unfortunate that that sort of material found its way into school libraries, but isn't part of a larger push to sexualize children.

You heard that right, activists within schools didn't put those materials there, they snuck in on their own.

:themoreyouknow:
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Is there some remote hick town where the majority agree with that sentiment and want to hold that event?


So can you explain the normalcy of homosexuality in an evolutionary/survival of the fittest context for us hicks?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297301 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Is there some remote hick town where the majority agree with that sentiment and want to hold that event?


Rather be hick than retarded

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Hank, do you care to weigh in?
On whether sexual instruction manuals (homo OR hetero) should be included in middle school libraries? No, they should not.

As I said above, parental involvement plays a reasonable role in identifying, preventing and/or removing it.

The problem is not that this sort of thing is removed. The problem is the OTHER 95% of innocuous materials that knot-up the panties of the Church Ladies.

Again, MOST of the stuff that finds its way onto their ban lists is the sexual orientation version of Huck's friend Jim.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297301 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:21 pm to
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, but isn't part of a larger push to sexualize children.


Hes a very simple person
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27007 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Along with a general abandonment of Judeo Christian values, family values, and traditional American values, I have a theory.

Victimhood is celebrated in this country more than anything now. A person can’t simply change their skin color or ethnicity, but they can change their sexuality. I think for many young people, it can start as just “identifying” as a certain sexual preference so as to be hip with the trend. Then many go full fledge into the lifestyle because they are typecast at that point, or they go down the rabbit hole. I think most serial killers probably didn’t set out to be so, but the rabbit hole got em.


Absolutely, one of the NY Mayor's daughters said in a Rolling Stone interview that she came out as "pansexual" because "heterosexual" was seen as lame amongst her peers (early 20s).

What's pansexual you ask? Someone that requires a romantic connection and a long term relationship before they have sex. In other words, a woman.

She's still heterosexual, but because of the stigma attached to it, heterosexuals have to dress up their sexuality now.

Don't worry though, this is all perfectly healthy for a sexual reproducing species and won't have any harmful future societal effects.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:23 pm to
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I see nothing in the Constitution that would prevent them from doing so.
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It doesn't matter what you see, it matters what the courts see

Let's be sure I understand you.

You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause?

Seriously?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Again, MOST of the stuff that finds its way onto their ban lists is the sexual orientation version of Huck's friend Jim.


Sez you.

But you've also said it's up to local communities to decide that (and that is the one part of your viewpoint on this that I agree with).
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10673 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Let's be sure I understand you.

You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause?

Seriously?



I think a court would prosecute someone for a hate crime and declare it unconstitutional from a discrimination standpoint.

You don't think a court would cry discrimination for doing that?

What if it was "We Don't Like Blacks" day?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15128 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Hank, do you care to weigh in?


Hank doesn't do well when facts are thrown in his face. He will deny saying it and state you took him out of context.
In a previous thread he stated that drag queens weren't into trans and were not violent yet on Fox news front page there is an article about a former drag queen that is now trans that stabbed his parent to death.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:25 pm to
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You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause?

Seriously?


Sponsored by a public school, with that message being a focus of the day's learning?
Hell yes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297301 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:26 pm to
Hey young boys, you can still like women and be gay!

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Like homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, or pansexual, gynesexual (sometimes spelled gynosexual) is a sexual orientation. Gynesexuality involves an attraction to femininity, according to the Stonewall Center at the University of Massachusetts. Basically, to be gynesexual is to be attracted to a person who identifies as female or displays stereotypically feminine characteristics—and that person could be male, female, trans, or nonbinary.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42292 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:27 pm to
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As I said above, parental involvement plays a reasonable role in identifying, preventing and/or removing it.


Only it doesn’t.

That ability was neutered.

ONLY the library board (in the case I noted) can do so, and they are appointed for 5 year terms.

Parents, in this case, effectively have no short term recourse.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86098 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Again, MOST of the stuff that finds its way onto their ban lists is the sexual orientation version of Huck's friend Jim.



When/where is this happening?

What I usually see looks like this:

- "DeSantis law bans beloved children's books!"

- "We spoke to librarian Xander Xenian (she/they) who told us that because of the new Florida law they had no choice but to pull Winnie the Pooh Goes Trick or Treating from the shelves."
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:30 pm to
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LGBTQ teacher scolds muslim children for skipping school pride event


Hope that teacher is targeted by Muslims
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