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re: Letter from FDA to physicians on acetaminophen use
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:45 am to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:45 am to LSUTANGERINE
Again, the Dean of the Harvard School of Public health was wrong, and you're right?
Seems like your intellect isn't being fully utilized on a poli message board. I think you need to try let Harvard know that he's substandard, and that you are better suited for that position.
Seems like your intellect isn't being fully utilized on a poli message board. I think you need to try let Harvard know that he's substandard, and that you are better suited for that position.
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:57 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Ok, so then NOTHING and NO ONE was grossly misled by President Donald J. Trump.
The vast majority of OTC meds are not recommended for pregnant women and it has nothing to do with autism
By the way, how do you know it has nothing to do with autism? Do you know what causes autism? If you do, please share it with the rest of us so the number of kids born with autism can be minimized.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:09 am to RollTide4547
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By the way, how do you know it has nothing to do with autism? Do you know what causes autism? If you do, please share it with the rest of us so the number of kids born with autism can be minimized.
They're going to cite two observational studies that deal with confounding variables that go against the other observational studies that did find association... truth is, autism is a big deal and any headway that can be made in finding ways to reduce prevalence is a good thing.
No one but no one says Tylenol is THE sole factor in increasing autism rates- but all factors need to be considered, studied and knowledge gained.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:14 am to AC1221
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Again, the Dean of the Harvard School of Public health was wrong, and you're right?
The research was exploratory in nature. It was legitimate research that led to additional research. The research from Harvard led to additional knowledge which prompted follow up research. That is exactly how scientific research works.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:19 am to LSUTANGERINE
Are we just going to ignore that the Trump administration has been bullying Harvard for not operating as an extension of the Trump administration since he was inaugurated? Trump starting threatening Harvard in March. Beginning in April, Trump froze billions in funding to Harvard for various illegitimate reasons. Now we're supposed to believe that Harvard is acting without any bias or fear of further retaliation from the Trump administration?
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:23 am to LSUTANGERINE
You don’t know what you are talking about and have no medical experience. If you do then you are a liar or a fool. There is a reason you have been told by virtually every doctor or nurse to alternate Tylenol with Ibuprofen or Aspirin if you have to take it. Are you suggesting that is because they have a vested interest in the well being of otc fever reducers or is it because it does damage to your liver? If something is known and well documented to show sustained liver damage in adults then it absolutely will and does cause damage to a pregnant woman or fetus. I have heard numerous doctors warn pregnant women to avoid Tylenol unless they have an allergy and even then to be used sporadically and only for a fever above 101
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:47 am to Rip Torn
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There is a reason you have been told by virtually every doctor or nurse to alternate Tylenol with Ibuprofen or Aspirin if you have to take it.
Of course there are reasons they do that. It’s not because of autism. That’s what this thread is about. Stay on task.
They recommend that for me. And I can’t have babies.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:50 am to LSUTANGERINE
Like this?
LINK
If "that is exactly how scientific research works", then why try to shite all over and dismiss the information that is coming out? Why can't you let the scientific method play out, and while playing out, exercise caution?
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If "that is exactly how scientific research works", then why try to shite all over and dismiss the information that is coming out? Why can't you let the scientific method play out, and while playing out, exercise caution?
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:50 am to MrSpock
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s far as liver toxicity? Come on doctor
As far as overall safety. Go back and read his post.
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You can ignore everything and everyone on the planet that contradicts your preconceived notions but your body doesn’t lie
Anyone who thinks "his body" is telling him to take opiates over tylenol bc one has a higher risk of liver toxicity is grossly misinformed.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:52 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
That is exactly how scientific research works
Sure. And also we have huge swaths of studies that can’t be replicated and regulatory capture being more common than not. But absolutely science!!
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:53 am to dgnx6
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But in the US we have opioids with acetaminophen. It causes liver failure in addicts.
The fda regulates how much can go into opioids.
Correct, I am not a big fan of the mixed formulations (vicodin, percocet, etc) bc I think it is better to have tylenol dosed separately. Easier to keep it in a safe range while maximizing its role in a multimodal postop pain pathway.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:53 am to SammyTiger
quote:
fine fine
you all have convinced me
i’ll take opiates
Probably less safe. But definitely more fun. Good luck, brother
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:54 am to RollTide4547
quote:
from tylenol advise pregnant women to not take tylenol in 2017?
If you are referring to that tweet, you need to understand there is a difference between "not recommending" something vs "advising against" something.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:57 am to Rip Torn
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If something is known and well documented to show sustained liver damage in adults then it absolutely will and does cause damage to a pregnant woman or fetus.
Again, dosage matters. There aren't alot of drugs, OTC or rx, that if you chug an entire bottle wont have "sustained" damage to some part of your body.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:57 am to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Seems to me you are making a distinction without much of a difference.
you need to understand there is a difference between "not recommending" something vs "advising against" something.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:58 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Seems to me you are making a distinction without much of a difference.
Yes, I totally get thats what it seems like to you.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:59 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Except that the correlation disappeared when confounding variables were controlled and they were sibling controls. That is the conflicting research that they magically left out yesterday.
And I'm sure there is still research out there that shows smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. That also doesn't mean we don't discourage it as a society in every way possible.
You people are defending tylenol harder than Winston defended tobacco back in the day. Insanity.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:00 am to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Let the pompous, pretentious, condescending arrogance and smugness out...
Yes, I totally get thats what it seems like to you.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:04 am to IceTea20
quote:They must stand against the Big Orange Meanie!
You people are defending tylenol harder than Winston defended tobacco back in the day. Insanity.
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:11 am to IceTea20
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And I'm sure there is still research out there that shows smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. That also doesn't mean we don't discourage it as a society in every way possible.
Yes, and the reason for that is the causal link between smoking and cancer is strong.
Are you claiming the scientific case is similar?
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