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re: Let's end dual citizenship
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:32 am to Jimmyboy
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:32 am to Jimmyboy
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My sister in law says she has citizenship in 3 countries
Switzerland Austria and USA… is this even possible? I don’t really care enough to research it but it’s kinda silly
Here's one reason why it might not be silly at all to keep the Austrian citizenship.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:37 am to Jdash13
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honestly nobody can trust you or your loyalty to the country.
And how in the ever loving frick can we trust you?
Maybe you would be someone who would sell secrets to a foreign enemy.
Or maybe you would just be a fricking coward who would desert his brothers on the battlefield.
You've got to be monumentally stupid if you think Americans, born in America, haven't done that.
For all any of us know, you could be one of those guys.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:24 am to SDVTiger
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Wrong
His mother was American, so yeah he could have dual citizenship.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:28 am to BamaGradinTn
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American company in that country. They have a child, born in that country, The child sure as hell can be a dual citizen, and for you to say otherwise .
lol.
The child belongs to the parent.
When it grows up and decides where it wants to pay its taxes, it can determine citizenship.
Same for the parents- if they want American benefits, better file income taxes here. Otherwise, file taxes in another country. I don’t care.
As a “dual citizen”, they ought to have to file taxes in each country they claim citizenry to.
I’m fine with that
That’s not what happens though. There’s people over here all mad because trump won and trying to have their cake and eat it too with dual citizenship like it makes any difference.
And when it’s time to get their Medicare and social security oh you bet they got their hands out…
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:45 am to Espritdescorps
No man can have two masters.
Easy to understand.
Easy to understand.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:56 am to SlidellCajun
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The child belongs to the parent.
When it grows up and decides where it wants to pay its taxes, it can determine citizenship.
Same for the parents- if they want American benefits, better file income taxes here. Otherwise, file taxes in another country. I don’t care.
As a “dual citizen”, they ought to have to file taxes in each country they claim citizenry to.
I’m fine with that
We are one of two countries that have worldwide taxation based on citizenship. You seem...not aware of that.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:30 am to Narax
The USA doesn’t recognize dual citizenship. Never has.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:25 am to LaMigra
My wife has dual citizenship (US & British). She was born there but raised here in the States.
No one is more American than she as she works in legislation at the state and now at the federal level.
She's more engaged in government than I've seen any other "pure blood" American which I would encourage you board fiends to do who have never gotten involved in the process.
All that being said, I do wonder if there shouldn't be some kind of vetting process.
No one is more American than she as she works in legislation at the state and now at the federal level.
She's more engaged in government than I've seen any other "pure blood" American which I would encourage you board fiends to do who have never gotten involved in the process.
All that being said, I do wonder if there shouldn't be some kind of vetting process.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:26 am to Floyd Dawg
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The USA doesn’t recognize dual citizenship. Never has.
Officially no but OP is making a point about using one country's benefits to work against the welfare of the other one which I think is a legitimate point.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:42 am to Narax
I have some Canadian neighbors who absolutely hate the US but are here reeping all the benefits. They’re nice enough people but we should send them all the frick back too, I don’t understand how Exxon can’t fill all these jobs with Americans
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:47 am to theballguy
quote:”Engaged in government” is so vague as to be suspicious. And it’s not even praiseworthy without context. Lots of terrorists are you”engaged in government”.
She's more engaged in government
But set that aside and let’s talk about your wife. I’ll take it as a given that she’s a fine person and an asset to any nation or community.
The question of dual citizenship is about a citizen’s first loyalty. It’s indicative of a person’s intentions when voting or “engaging in government”.
I’d like to think that a citizen from one of our closest allies would have no trouble with this, but what about her commitment to the 1st amendment? England sure seems to have different ideas about that! And what about the 2nd amendment? Would your wife fight for that right in her new country ?
But let’s be honest, one voter doesn’t USUALLY cause much of an issue and so its easy to think this issue of dual loyalties is a tempest in a tea pot.
However, what if whole “communities” of dual citizens get together and carve out territory in the US to create a very different set of attitudes and laws? What about top tier radicals with foreign loyalties and possessing charisma and a golden tongue become “engaged in government”? Lenin? Ilhan Omar? Che Guevara?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:50 am to Narax
of all the things to cry about....this one makes the least sense.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:51 am to Jimbeaux
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”Engaged in government” is so vague as to be suspicious. And it’s not even praiseworthy without context. Lots of terrorists are you”engaged in government”.
Actually more Americans should try it. Just bitching about politics on a board or FB is not engagement. It's actually one of the most American things one can do. Hard to believe most MAGAs have an aversion to it.
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what about her commitment to the 1st amendment?
Seriously, Clark?
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whole “communities” of dual citizens get together and carve out territory in the US to create a very different set of attitudes and laws?
Like I said, there ought to be some kind of vetting process.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 8:53 am
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:09 am to theballguy
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Just bitching about politics on a board or FB is not engagement
What do you think qualifies as “engagement”? Being a Gary Chambers gadfly at City Hall? Volunteering for Bernie Sanders’ election campaign before going on a shooting spree at the Congressional baseball game?
Discussing politics on what amounts to the virtual town square is not nothing. It’s “engaging” in the realm of political discussion and influence.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:10 am to Narax
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So anyone who spends money and is taxed here should vote?
There is a huge difference from a tourist that vacations here and spends money compared to someone that owns homes, businesses, etc. and spends a bunch of money that is taxed. I am just saying that if I'm splitting time between 2 countries that I own homes in and businesses I believe I should have a say so in how my money that is being taxed is spent, and you do this by voting.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:34 am to Floyd Dawg
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The USA doesn’t recognize dual citizenship. Never has.
lol
The US ABSOLUTELY recognizes dual citizenship!!
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:12 am to Jimmyboy
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My sister in law says she has citizenship in 3 countries
Don't fret, he's only concerned with Israel/US dual citizenship.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:33 am to LemmyLives
quote:don't think that one was mentioned,
Don't fret, he's only concerned with Israel/US dual citizenship.
but you bring a salient, pertinent point in that regard.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 1:42 pm to mtb010
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There is a huge difference from a tourist that vacations here and spends money compared to someone that owns homes, businesses, etc. and spends a bunch of money that is taxed. I am just saying that if I'm splitting time between 2 countries that I own homes in and businesses I believe I should have a say so in how my money that is being taxed is spent, and you do this by voting.
No there is not.
You do not deserve a say in the running of two countries.
Just because you make money in two places doesn't mean you can be drafted by both.
So it doesn't mean you should be allowed to vote in both.
Again, nothing saying you can't live in both or run a business in both.
Just you can't vote in both.
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