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re: Let's all go on the PT record, who do you want to prevail, Russia or Ukraine?

Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:45 am to
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:45 am to
I would like to see Ukraine win and Putin booted out of power. I want a democracy in Russia that respects the sovereignty of other nations and guarantees human rights for its citizens. Russia needs multiparty democracy and to be a member of the European community.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:48 am to
False dichotomy...

The assumption that Ukraine was ever independent of foreign control.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:48 am to
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that respects the sovereignty of other nations and guarantees human rights for its citizens


Now do the US
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1759 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:55 am to
I hope Ukraine fights for and maintains their sovereignty and I’m praying for the people of both countries.
At the end of the day though, we are talking about an international gangster responding to meddling in his region, by a series of corrupt US regimes, by invading a country led by a corrupt regime who took power via coup and then imprisoned his political opponents. All in all, I’m really rooting for the citizens of all three countries to rid themselves of this awful “leadership”
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18110 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:02 am to
I'm indifferent. Idc either way. I'm more concerned with the tragedies happening in our own country.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12565 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:05 am to
It's none of our damn business!

All ANYONE had to say was Ukraine will not be joining NATO anytime in the near future and things would have been fine.

Who wins or loses will not affect me. There are more important things going on here.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55105 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:32 am to
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However things have changed since the rigged 2020 GE and Putin has aligned himself with Xi

So has Biden.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4604 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:38 am to
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Or option 3. I hope they both lose.


People, especially on the left, can't see that there is no clear better party.

Ukraine is where Democrats found a new government to launder their money through. Now, Russia threatens that.

I believe the Ukrainians people want freedom from Russia, but being a nation alone outside of NATO, they must fight for that right.

Ultimately my prayer is for those peaceful people fighting the oppression of both regimes and for the Christian ministries doing work there.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38560 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:40 am to
I hope Ukraine remains free; free to elect corrupt Leaders if they so choose. It comes with Freedom and it's what we have done.

That said, I hope Putin faces War Crimes prosecution, and as part of his defense he drops all of the evidence of Biden/US corruption in Ukraine.

China is watching and learning. If the Taiwanese are armed well enough and motivated to incur significant martyrdom such that the whole World damns the CCP, then Xi might reconsider taking Tiawan.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:50 am to
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I am for all the people who had ELECTIONS STOLEN


You do know Putin rigs elections? And kills or jails legit challengers? Right?
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24474 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:56 am to
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who do you want to prevail, Russia or Ukraine?


Neither
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41850 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:56 am to
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free to elect corrupt Leaders if they so choose.


I agree.

However, I would not be assuming that the elections are legitimate. Do you even Ukraine bro?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41850 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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You do know Putin rigs elections? And kills or jails legit challengers? Right?


No doubt.

Now do Biden.
Posted by araminta
Tennessee, USA
Member since Apr 2005
433 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:00 am to
I pray the citizens of Russia and the citizens of Ukraine destroy the globalists. Same goes for USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc….
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3750 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:15 am to
That is a false choice.

The correct answer is a neutral Ukraine that owes allegiance to neither the West OR Russia.

An Eastern European Switzerland, if you will.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 8:16 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125051 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:23 am to
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who do you want to prevail


I don’t care.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53606 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:39 am to
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hope Ukraine remains free; free to elect corrupt Leaders if they so choose. It comes with Freedom and it's what we have done.

That said, I hope Putin faces War Crimes prosecution, and as part of his defense he drops all of the evidence of Biden/US corruption in Ukraine.

China is watching and learning. If the Taiwanese are armed well enough and motivated to incur significant martyrdom such that the whole World damns the CCP, then Xi might reconsider taking Tiawan.





This ^^^ is an example of sane and rational thought.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:26 am to
I don’t equate the USA with a dictatorial regime in Russia.
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