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re: Let's all go on the PT record, who do you want to prevail, Russia or Ukraine?

Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:13 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89085 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:13 am to
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Let's all go on the PT record, who do you want to prevail, Russia or Ukraine?

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:14 am to
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I believe free people and those who are victims of STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS and the consequences of those STOLEM PRESIDENTIAL ELEWCTIONS will turn out to be the winners/


>>>Bush supports Ukraine. Kerry supports Ukraine. Biden supports Ukraine. Soros supports Ukraine. Pelosi supports Ukraine. Hillary supports Ukraine. Obama supports Ukraine. Romney supports Ukraine. Abromovich supports Ukraine.

These are all of the people that were against Trump, that is obvious enough. The establishment itself was and is against Trump. But get it straight, these people do not support Ukrainian sovereignty or anything like that. They support the criminal activity that they were engaged in there. Period. And they do not want it stopped or brought to widespread public attention.

Get it out of your head that they support the People of Ukraine. Oh, how noble of them. The criminal establishment are such beautiful freedom fighters. Please.

The Ukrainian People will be free when these operations are complete. Their election was stolen from them and they were given a foreign installation. Sound familiar? The same thing happened right here at home and under our own eyes, for similar reasons and by similar agents.

If you now suddenly care about the People of Ukraine, did you feel bad for the Ukrainians who refused to acknowledge the illegal coup-formed government of 2014, and therefore were killed by the thousands for it?

Now that your media tells you to care, you suddenly care? The media told you there was nothing to see here in the STOLEN 2020 US Election! That stolen election is an illegal coup– just like the one that took place in Ukraine. <<<<


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Ukraine is a gnats arse on the global scale.....A reconstituted Russian Empire is a real problem for the US particularly when Putin has made a decision to side with Xi
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:17 am to
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Downvote to not give you the satisfaction of upvote harvesting.




Now that's putting some serious thought.
Posted by FlyingWingnut
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Member since Mar 2020
130 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:18 am to
TLDR, as a LSU fan a minute before the iron bowl. Can they both lose?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:19 am to
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It’s not that simple. Both Ukraine and Russia are bad.

The best that can be hoped for is a scenario such as the following:

Pull for Putin to at first be successful in eliminating the New World Order elite corruption from Ukraine but then afterwards to cave to international pressure and pull out and allow a new government to be elected and Ukraine to be restored as a sovereign nation after giving assurances that they cannot join NATO and become a military threat to Russia.

Likely it will be messier, as war so often is.



You have a nice outcome but it ain't happening as long as Putin and Xi are working against the US.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:20 am to
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Bass Tiger


I am kinda leaning towards hoping the mods nuke your account



Toughen up split tail!
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:21 am to
I'm pro Ukraine all the way. frick Putin.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:22 am to
This is all mostly about oil and gas. If Ukraine gets their act together and starts refining oil and gas, then selling it to Europe, that is going to massively cut into Russia's stranglehold on the European market. They need that access to survive since they really have no other source of revenue other than selling weapons.

This would push Ukraine further to the West and most likely into NATO eventually. Russia will never allow that. They just won't.

But Ukraine has the right to develop and sell the natural resources in their territory and sell it on the open market. Even if it crushes Russia economically.

Everyone else, including the USA, needs to stop meddling in Ukraine and let them do their thing.

More than anything, I'm pulling for the innocent Ukrainian and Russian people getting caught in the middle.

I understand Putin's reasons, but still someone needs to shoot that son of a bitch.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:22 am to
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We had roughly 2,000,000 illegal aliens walk across our southern border in 2021. We have less than 5 American cities larger than that number. It's the equivalent to taking the combined populations of Phoenix, AZ and Wichita, KS and dropping them into America in one year...totally unaccounted for.

And yet, we have no American troops amassed at our border preventing the next 2,000,000 from coming here this year. Despite that, we're being preached to about the border integrity of Ukraine.





Yeah yeah we get it, it sucks are illegitimate regime won't protect our southern border and now the same fricking inept rat bastards have set the table for Russia to begin their ascent to superpower status again.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:23 am to
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>>>Bush supports Ukraine. Kerry supports Ukraine. Biden supports Ukraine. Soros supports Ukraine. Pelosi supports Ukraine. Hillary supports Ukraine. Obama supports Ukraine. Romney supports Ukraine. Abromovich supports Ukraine.



Yep. All the fake support for Ukraine by the MSM is all I need to know. They are like an opposite compass for me. If they say go left, then I go right. I'm not pro Putin or pro Russia. All I know is the MSM is our biggest enemy. Our own press does more harm than Putin ever could.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:24 am to
I am for all the people who had ELECTIONS STOLEN

in Ukraine

here in the USA
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:25 am to
quote:

I believe free people and those who are victims of STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS and the consequences of those STOLEM PRESIDENTIAL ELEWCTIONS will turn out to be the winners/


>>>Bush supports Ukraine. Kerry supports Ukraine. Biden supports Ukraine. Soros supports Ukraine. Pelosi supports Ukraine. Hillary supports Ukraine. Obama supports Ukraine. Romney supports Ukraine. Abromovich supports Ukraine.

These are all of the people that were against Trump, that is obvious enough. The establishment itself was and is against Trump. But get it straight, these people do not support Ukrainian sovereignty or anything like that. They support the criminal activity that they were engaged in there. Period. And they do not want it stopped or brought to widespread public attention.

Get it out of your head that they support the People of Ukraine. Oh, how noble of them. The criminal establishment are such beautiful freedom fighters. Please.

The Ukrainian People will be free when these operations are complete. Their election was stolen from them and they were given a foreign installation. Sound familiar? The same thing happened right here at home and under our own eyes, for similar reasons and by similar agents.

If you now suddenly care about the People of Ukraine, did you feel bad for the Ukrainians who refused to acknowledge the illegal coup-formed government of 2014, and therefore were killed by the thousands for it?

Now that your media tells you to care, you suddenly care? The media told you there was nothing to see here in the STOLEN 2020 US Election! That stolen election is an illegal coup– just like the one that took place in Ukraine. <<<<





what the frick is that ^^^ shite? I've been bitching about the stolen election since Nov 4, 2020.....and I don't listen to the Gaslight Media.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36756 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:39 am to
I don’t think either “side” of the matter presents a good argument. Seems to me the issue should be more of one that asks whether one believes Russia’s incursion into Ukraine is justifiable, or the flip side of the coin being the position that it’s not ok in any way to invade a sovereign country without any justification whatsoever.

It shouldn’t really be based in the identity of the leaders involved or even really the countries involved. It’s just more of a “general” matter than that.

And ftr I’m in the Russia had no justification to invade sovereign Ukraine. Full stop.

And thanks for allowing me to use your post as an opportunity to state my opinion. It’s not a rebuke of your own opinion.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:42 am to
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frick Russia and China
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 12:45 am to
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Option 3
I kinda like option 3.

Russia picks up some of Ukraine territory, Ukraine remains a country but the piggy bank it’s been to our corrupt politicians is broken. Russia is weakened a bit in the process

And maybe a lesson is learned about trying to undermine other countries. Sorta doubt the latter is possible
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143854 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:12 am to
Where are the accusations by random posters about the board being pro-Russian coming from?

I haven’t seen the first real poster being “pro-Putin”.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 1:19 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28502 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:21 am to
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Where are the accusations by random posters about the board being pro-Russian coming from?

I haven’t seen the first real poster being “pro-Putin”.




Dude it's so fricking tiring. They are droning the same shite over and over. It's like CNN gave them one fricking talking point this week and that's it... and in typical fashion never gave them any examples but they spout it anyway
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:22 am to
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…who do you want to prevail…
The United States of America.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:25 am to
What would our reaction be if Russia backdoored a coup in Mexico and installed a Russian friendly administration that allowed them to set up shop with their military?

The Monroe Doctrine, which covers both North AND South America as our sphere of influence, would be dusted off immediately.

Obama replacing Ukraine's leadership in 2014 is the catalyst for where we are today. Frankly, I feel this invasion was planned by the US as they knew Putin wouldn't stand for the incursion into his territory.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 1:27 am to
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Dude it's so fricking tiring. They are droning the same shite over and over. It's like CNN gave them one fricking talking point this week and that's it


It's not just the left. Fox is doing it as well along with pushing the bullshite narrative that Trump is cheering for Putin.
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