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re: Layoffs begin at Atlanta-based CDC, other U.S. health agencies
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:37 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:37 pm to deeprig9
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If it's so dangerous, why is it available over the counter at the hardware store? Shouldn't you need a script from a vet for such a dangerous drug to treat your horse?
I assume its OTC.... for the horse.
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:46 pm to atlgamecockman
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I'd like some evidence beyond 'it's fantasy because I said so'
This is weak AF, and you wonder why you/yours are getting downsized.
I'm assuming you work for the CDC or are engaged somehow in government healthcare, so it's inexcusable for you to be as ignorant as you come across in this thread. You should be able to provide the evidence to the rest of us about how much damage to kids - their social and academic development - retarded Covid measures, as championed by the CDC, proved to be. Let's start with that.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:51 pm to David_DJS
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I'm assuming you work for the CDC or are engaged somehow in government healthcare,
I don't and am not...
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You should be able to provide the evidence to the rest of us about how much damage to kids - their social and academic development - retarded Covid measures, as championed by the CDC, proved to be.
Oh man there's tons! I don't argue this point at all. Tons of articles and studies, etc about it... it was bad for kids indeed, delayed development and learning etc.
But people going out and taking medicine specifically designed and dosed to deworm horses and not designed for human consumption to treat a viral infection is stupid and you should agree it's stupid.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:53 pm to atlgamecockman
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Are there unnecessary people in the CDC? Sure.
Then stop objecting to cuts. We can look at waste in more than one place at a time.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:53 pm to Wally Sparks
I can't breathe!
It's the height of pollen sea -...
ELON'S FAULT!!!
It's the height of pollen sea -...
ELON'S FAULT!!!
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:54 pm to atlgamecockman
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But people going out and taking medicine specifically designed and dosed to deworm horses and not designed for human consumption to treat a viral infection is stupid and you should agree it's stupid.
Is it as stupid as pretending people protesting don’t need Covid protection but people going to church do?
It might be stupid to take horse paste. What it isn’t is dangerous.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:59 pm to the808bass
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It might be stupid to take horse paste. What it isn’t is dangerous.
It can leave you comatose or dead in high enough doses. It is dangerous. Especially if you take other medications. This is straight up ignorant.
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And according to the Missouri Poison Center, ingesting large doses of ivermectin formulated for animals has a long list of side effects, including seizures, coma, lung issues, and heart problems. Veterinary ivermectin is not a cure or effective treatment for COVID, the FDA has repeatedly warned, and is highly concentrated because it is designed for large animals like horses and cows. “Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans,” the FDA cautions.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:00 pm to atlgamecockman
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can leave you comatose or dead in high enough doses. It is dangerous
A lot of things can do this. How much horse paste does it take to render someone comatose? Be specific.
It’s not really dangerous. You can salvage a modicum of integrity by admitting it.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:01 pm to atlgamecockman
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Oh man there's tons! I don't argue this point at all. Tons of articles and studies, etc about it... it was bad for kids indeed, delayed development and learning etc.
Then why are you arguing the CDC is worthwhile? The organization is a clown car relative to its actual remit.
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But people going out and taking medicine specifically designed and dosed to deworm horses and not designed for human consumption to treat a viral infection is stupid and you should agree it's stupid.
This is your issue?
I'm not a horse paste consumer, but you seem to be impressed with articles and studies. Surely you are aware of the loads of research/reports about ivermectin being used for all sorts of things including treating cancer, right?
So is it the idea that someone would self-medicate w/o an MD's support that has you twisted in knots?
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:01 pm to Flats
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Then stop objecting to cuts. We can look at waste in more than one place at a time.
Fine, agreed. Just wondering why we haven't heard anything about DOD yet.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:07 pm to the808bass
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A lot of things can do this. How much horse paste does it take to render someone comatose? Be specific.
2mg/kg will get you admitted to the hospital.
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The human data surrounding ivermectin overdose is limited. Animal models generally report doses between 5-15 mg/kg as toxic. Poison control suggests individuals who have received more than 2 mg/kg be seen in a hospital. It is with larger doses that ivermectin is able to cross the blood-brain barrier in humans and begin to cause neurological symptoms. Coma is common in large overdoses and the airway should be appropriately managed.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:07 pm to atlgamecockman
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They won the nobel prize for discovering it. It's used to treat parasitic infections... which covid is not. It's a viral infection and Ivermectin has limited effectiveness in treating symptoms.
Let’s flash back: There were teams of doctors who came up with an entire regimen to treat Covid and were deplatformed at the height of the government lockdown. The regimen included zinc taken with zinc ionophores (of which ivermectin was most effective) as well as other treatments. The CDC was run by a leftist plant at the time and she directed doctors not to prescribe it. Hospitals and doctors were held hostage by the money the government was throwing around to promote the newer more expensive treatments that actually killed people faster, like remdisivir and ventilators.
In short, ivermectin was never given a chance because that’s not where the money and power were. Some people recognized the power grab early and took matters in their own hands and bought horse paste. Turns out, those people were not only smarter, but on the right side of history.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:10 pm to David_DJS
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Surely you are aware of the loads of research/reports about ivermectin being used for all sorts of things including treating cancer, right?
Sure... for parasitic infection. The jury is still out on cancer... they're doing trials on it but nothing conclusive yet.
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So is it the idea that someone would self-medicate w/o an MD's support that has you twisted in knots?
I'm just shocked at how foolish you'd have to be in this case. The evidence is clear as day it doesn't help with anything related to covid so why people continue to take it for that or did in the first place is baffling.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:13 pm to NineLineBind
Double blind studies? Reasonable statistical significance in those? You got any names of these doctors?
Come with some links... because as someone above noted I am fond of articles and studies... aka evidence haha
Come with some links... because as someone above noted I am fond of articles and studies... aka evidence haha
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:16 pm to atlgamecockman
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Sure... for parasitic infection. The jury is still out on cancer... they're doing trials on it but nothing conclusive yet.
I think you're wrong about this. Do yourself a favor and read. This from the NYT (and simply the lead from a google search) -
While some inaccurate social media posts claim that ivermectin can treat cancer because tumors themselves are parasitic, the promise of ivermectin for cancer has nothing to do with its anti-parasitic effect, Dr. Lee said. Rather, it seems that the drug may be able to modulate a signal involved with cancer growth
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I'm just shocked at how foolish you'd have to be in this case. The evidence is clear as day it doesn't help with anything related to covid so why people continue to take it for that or did in the first place is baffling.
You know what's even more baffling? MDs and the CDC pretending natural immunity somehow took a vacation with Covid.
When you trot out utter bullshite while posing as an expert, you lose credibility to the point people see no difference between the dude in the white coat and $200 haircut and Joe Bob tweeting from his porch.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:23 pm to atlgamecockman
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2mg/kg will get you admitted to the hospital.
How much ivermectin is in a tube of horse paste?
If a person weighs 180 lbs, how many mg will they need to take to hit the toxicity level you described (leaving aside the fact you mischaracterized the need for hospitalization at 2 mg/kg)?
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:23 pm to David_DJS
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drug may be able to modulate a signal involved with cancer growth
I read the article. This article LINK
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A wealth of research has shown the drug does not treat Covid. And there is not evidence to support people taking ivermectin to treat cancer.
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Scientists are, however, conducting early research into ivermectin and cancer.
“It’s certainly not a cancer breakthrough, from what we can tell,” said Dr. Larry Norton, medical director of the Evelyn H. Lauder Breast Center at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. “But it’s being actively investigated. That’s really all that one can say at this point.”
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you lose credibility to the point people see no difference between the dude in the white coat and $200 haircut and Joe Bob tweeting from his porch
Well if the credibility is the most important thing, not their lives, then that's what baffles me.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:24 pm to the808bass
I'm not gonna do the math for you bud, if you are really worried about your horse paste dosage you might wanna get off your arse and put a pencil in your hand and do it yourself.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:24 pm to David_DJS
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When you trot out utter bullshite while posing as an expert, you lose credibility
I think he's still coming to grips with the fact the medical field did this to itself over covid.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:25 pm to atlgamecockman
I know you didn’t know what you were talking about. Just wanted you to demonstrate it. Appreciate it.
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