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re: Layoffs begin at Atlanta-based CDC, other U.S. health agencies

Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:39 pm to
They won the nobel prize for discovering it. It's used to treat parasitic infections... which covid is not. It's a viral infection and Ivermectin has limited effectiveness in treating symptoms.

LINK

The only place it should be used to treat covid is in clinical trials, which it has been and currently been used.

People are taking horse dewormer because they don't trust liberal science but rather what their idiot friends on facebook are saying
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:46 pm to
Coward
Posted by MemphisGuy
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:49 pm to
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yeah that sounds great til you add up the expense of treating disease/protecting us from another covid style pandemic


Because they did such a bang up job with the last one...

6 ft apart? Yeah, we just came up with that because we needed to come up with something... no scientific reasoning behind it.

masks? Yeah, we know the ones y'all are using are useless, but at least it looks like you are doing something.

Vaccines: Yeah, we know they aren't actually vaccines and they neither prevent Covid nor the transmission of Covid, but ... hell, just go get your damn shot.

Yes, they did a fine job with Covid.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:51 pm to
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yeah that sounds great til you add up the expense of treating disease/protecting us from another covid style pandemic

What the frick - are you being serious?
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Oh man.... yeah that sounds great til you add up the expense of treating disease/protecting us from another covid style pandemic... this is pennywise and pound foolish
Do you think that most of the jobs at the CDC/HHS are devoted to "treating disease/protecting us"?

I hate to break it to you but our federal health agencies are full of bloated bureaucracy like all other agencies.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:59 pm to
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protecting us from another covid style pandemic


Well they did a great fooking job of that the first time.
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 1:59 pm to
What do you think the costs of treating preventable outbreaks of measles, pertussis etc are? Besides just medicine. Actually use your brain and think of costs that could arise from preventable disease outbreaks. Don't give me 'muh freedom' bs either... here I'll help you get started:


There's a measles outbreak in Texas right now... The parents of those children have to take off work... then, _____
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:01 pm to
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prevent Covid



dude come on... vaccines don't prevent infection. They give your body the ability to fight infection. This is so easy
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:04 pm to
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I hate to break it to you but our federal health agencies are full of bloated bureaucracy like all other agencies.



All organizations are but....

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Jobs were eliminated at offices overseeing the approval of new drugs, providing health insurance and responding to infectious disease outbreaks.

A number of lesser-known divisions — including several focused on the safety of mining workers — were cut entirely.


LINK

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:06 pm to
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What do you think the costs of treating preventable outbreaks of measles, pertussis etc are? Besides just medicine. Actually use your brain and think of costs that could arise from preventable disease outbreaks. Don't give me 'muh freedom' bs either... here I'll help you get started:


There's a measles outbreak in Texas right now... The parents of those children have to take off work... then, _____

My argument isn't about freedom. It's about competency. The CDC ain't protecting anybody from anything in anything approaching an effective and efficient manner.

We would have been better off dealing with Covid if the CDC (and congress) had taken a 12-month holiday at the start of the pandemic.
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:10 pm to
Cant even be bothered to think on it... color me shocked

Why is firing people who help control outbreaks of infectious diseases when we have an increase of outbreaks a good idea?

Would love to hear a thoughtful, evidence based argument but I'm not holding my breath...

Spare me the efficiency platitudes, I'm sure those people in Texas with sick kids would rather hear that
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:15 pm to
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vaccines don't prevent infection. They give your body the ability to fight infection. This is so easy


I can assure you with 100% certainty that it isn't.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:17 pm to
I mean... it should be it's just common sense
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:18 pm to
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Spare me the efficiency platitudes, I'm sure those people in Texas with sick kids would rather hear that

You're dim.

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Why is firing people who help control outbreaks of infectious diseases when we have an increase of outbreaks a good idea?

The CDC (and federal & state government broadly) turned Covid into an utter shite show. Far more damage - to people, to society and economic - was done by Covid response than what would have been realized from the virus on its own.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Why is firing people who help control outbreaks of infectious diseases when we have an increase of outbreaks a good idea?



Because they shite the bed during their last big test.
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Layoffs begin at Atlanta-based CDC, other U.S. health agencies


Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:21 pm to
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They won the nobel prize for discovering it. It's used to treat parasitic infections... which covid is not. It's a viral infection and Ivermectin has limited effectiveness in treating symptoms.


So, some effectiveness? If a person got Covid, confirmed by the doctor, was scared to death of it, and asked the doctor for medicine, and the doctor said just drink orange juice and take tylenol, would that person be justified to seek alternative treatments if they were scared shitless they were about to die because of the media hype and death-counters scrolling on CNN?


Posted by atlgamecockman
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Far more damage - to people, to society and economic - was done by Covid response than what would have been realized from the virus on its own.


I guess we'll never know how many people would have died to prove this out.... wonder why
Posted by atlgamecockman
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:25 pm to
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some effectiveness


I suggest you look at the authors conclusions of the study I linked... no evidence for effectiveness beyond normal treatment


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would that person be justified to seek alternative treatments if they were scared shitless they were about to die


Sure but I wouldn't be running to facebook groups espousing the benefits of an unproven course of treatment with HORSE DEWORMER... I'd go to a different doctor... that's the whole issue.
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