re: Latest video of the shooting. Total mess.

Not seeing it yet. Oh well, how can we discuss with the Left when they claimed Renee didn't punch the gas and hit the other ICE agent?

He put himself in that situation, carrying and then standing in the middle of the road, not 'peacefully protesting' from the sidewalk.

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I don’t know why that’s hard for you people to understand.

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I guess for the same reason that it's so hard for "you people" to understand that making bad choices doesn't justify an unjustified shooting.

Yeah, the guy went looking for trouble and found it, etc., etc.

By that logic, so did Kyle Rittenhouse. That shouldn't have been a justification in that case (and it wasn't) and it shouldn't be in this one either.

But populists gonna do populist things, so the same people crying over Rittenhouse's arrest want to use the same justification the leftist populists used back then.

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Total mess.

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Dude. I learned more about what really happened in Minneapolis by rewatching the Zapruder Film.

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All liberals suffer from the same issue…. Context matters. Carrying a gun? No issue. Caring a gun to a really? No issue. Carrying a gun to a rally then interfering with federal agents? Here’s where the issue starts. You’re free to do so BUT, you’re opening yourself up to being shot due to a whole host of reasons. I don’t know why that’s hard for you people to understand.

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It's not hard to understand. I follow your logic. But the conclusion you can draw from that is that Pretti assumed the risk of getting shot, so maybe we don't feel so bad for him. But you can't conclude it was a good shoot from that.

And if you want to know why people are angry--tens of thousands of people in Minneapolis--it's because of the context you emphasize. DHS doesn't need to be doing this. The city wasn't overrun with violent illegal immigrant criminals. And if it was, DHS could step up enforcement the usual way: get warrants, go to a dude's house, and take him in. But now they're on the streets stopping cars and harassing citizens (including off-duty cops Link to Sherrifs' Press Conference). Minneapolis police are getting hundreds of complaints a day about DHS officers acting with impunity, stopping cars, detaining citizens without cause, assaulting people, taking their children, leaving their cars in the middle of the street, and generally acting like dicks. People are afraid of them. They're busting into homes without judicial warrants (i.e. unconstitutionally) in a systematic way ( Link to CBS reporting). DHS now accounts for 80% of the shooting victims in Minneapolis this year, and 2/3 of the shooting deaths.

What's most galling for most people not in Minneapolis is the lies. DHS spokespeople get on the air immediately after shootings and lie about them. They say things about the dead people (like their intent) that they can't possibly know minutes after a shooting, and some things that are patently false based on the video.

When you combine that with the leadership from the President, who seems increasingly unhinged, who lies constantly in his Truth Social feed and in interviews, and who does not hesistate to say that he wants to punish states that didn't vote for him (even though he thinks elections are rigged, and hence it shouldn't be the voters' fault), you can start to see how Minnesotans might feel that DHS was sent there to teach the citizens of Minnesota some sort of lesson. And if you don't want to live like that, what do you do?