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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:44 pm to TBoy
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:44 pm to TBoy
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With Russia’s mineral wealth and expanse of land it could be a wealthy country if it stopped wasting money on war making and expansion.
well, it would have to rid itself of the corruption that has been there for its entire history and share the wealth among its citizens instead of letting a few at the top have it all.
The problem with "Petrostate" economies is that after the initial building out phases there's fewer and fewer jobs for the greater population, so there's a declining middle-class and a growing unemployed working class. Agricultural economies are increasingly in the same boat because of mechanization/automation.
Like any former Soviet country, Russia has a large share of its population who are nostalgic for Communism, which they see as a much fairer and better system than their model of “Capitalism.” Putin actually used that nostalgia on Eastern Russian troops and cast their fight in Ukraine as battling the evil and corrupt Capitalist West, which is why there were Sickle and Hammer flags around in the first year or so of the invasion that confused a lot of people. But for all we know those people have never been told that the Soviet Union collapsed!
It's going to take a hell of a leader to take Russia into the present as a free representative Democracy... when times get hard the impulse of the people will be to follow a strongman who gives them easy answers and easy scapegoats. Yeltsin presented himself as that leader (so did Lukashenko in Belarus) but was just a "nicer" version of the same corrput Kleptocracy...
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Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:05 pm to doubleb
Latest from ISW
More of the same.
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Key Takeaways: US President Donald Trump ordered the deployment of two US nuclear submarines closer to Russia presumably in response to Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev's July 31 nuclear threats against the United States. The Kremlin continued its nuclear threats against the United States before the ordered deployment of US nuclear submarines on August 1 – demonstrating that Medvedev's threats are part of a wider Kremlin nuclear saber-rattling campaign. Putin reiterated on August 1 the same demands that he first laid out in June 2024 – further demonstrating Russia's uncompromising position and disinterest in negotiating to end its war against Ukraine. Putin attempted to frame peace negotiations to end the war in Ukraine as making progress while blaming Ukraine for slowing the speed of negotiations. Putin's and Lukashenko's August 1 statements underscore Putin's continued commitment to his theory of victory, which assumes that Russia can outlast Western support for Ukraine and will be able to seize the entirety of Ukraine through slow and costly advances. Putin and Lukashenko highlighted recent Russian advances in Donetsk Oblast and articulated Russia's desire to seize Ukraine's fortress belt, which ISW continues to assess as a multi-year effort. Putin and Lukashenko projected military strength and economic stability as part of Putin's ongoing effort to convince Trump that sanctions and military support to Ukraine will not alter the outcome of the war in Ukraine and that Trump should abandon his efforts to resolve the war. Russian President Vladimir Putin appears to be transforming Russia into a Soviet-style police state, likely in preparation for expected anti-war sentiment in the Russian population as the Kremlin prolongs the war in Ukraine and prepares for a future war with NATO. Russia continues to field long-range drone innovations to facilitate its ongoing long-range strike campaign and impose greater civilian casualties on Ukraine. Ukrainian forces recently advanced in northern Sumy Oblast and near Borova and Lyman. Russian forces recently advanced near Kupyansk, Siversk, Toretsk, and Pokrovsk.
More of the same.
ISW
Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:44 pm to Auburn1968
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Putin is wasting munitions on civilians to terrorize Ukraine, but all that does is piss off Ukrainians and make them more bitter enemies.
You'd think recruitment would be better for Ukraine then
Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:46 pm to cypher
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I take it you are against name calling.
The same crowd who complain about name calling on here call people a foreign asset on a whim, thus the moral high ground you're trying to take doesn't exist
Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:47 pm to AU86
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Everything Vol posts regarding you is true.
He has 100% got you pegged. You dodge questions. You make claims that you cannot prove with facts.Then your only answer is calling whoever calls you out a troll.
You are an old man that has drank the propaganda koolaid for so long it has turned you into an old neocon that is out of touch with reality.
Every thing I've ever expected of him were pretty easy things to do for anyone not completely ideologically compromised.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:49 pm to VolSquatch
Slava ukraini
It’s why they can only get 500 men under 27 to enlist, while offering them what would be the American equivalent of almost half a million dollars (adjusting their median income to ours) for a 1 year service term
Ukraine is not western. When Ukraine is crushed, it might actually spark the masculine revival of the West. The figs in Europe will be shaking their boots and have to enlist
I do wish the Ukrainians the best - I just don’t want to spend a cent on them. They are not our problem, and serve zero strategic purpose to the US. Russia getting rid of its Cold War stockpiles is irrelevant when they have a war machine in place now that outproduces the US significantly.
It’s why they can only get 500 men under 27 to enlist, while offering them what would be the American equivalent of almost half a million dollars (adjusting their median income to ours) for a 1 year service term
Ukraine is not western. When Ukraine is crushed, it might actually spark the masculine revival of the West. The figs in Europe will be shaking their boots and have to enlist
I do wish the Ukrainians the best - I just don’t want to spend a cent on them. They are not our problem, and serve zero strategic purpose to the US. Russia getting rid of its Cold War stockpiles is irrelevant when they have a war machine in place now that outproduces the US significantly.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:08 pm to GeauxBurrow312
Other than the signing bonus, its actually less than average salary.
Ukraine is way more western than Slovakia or Moldova The entire reason they wanted to join the EU is to get rid of the Russian influence and corruption. Many of the citizens were actually migrant workers into Western Europe before 2022. Before 2014 many were migrant INDUSTRIAL construction workers to modernize Russian manufacturing with WESTERN technology including all the refinery modernizations and expansions since 2000. It is quite difficult to find any competent Russian workers outside of Moscow or St. Petersburg regions. This is NOT new. 1/3 of the Soviet industry was in Ukraine.
Ukraine is way more western than Slovakia or Moldova The entire reason they wanted to join the EU is to get rid of the Russian influence and corruption. Many of the citizens were actually migrant workers into Western Europe before 2022. Before 2014 many were migrant INDUSTRIAL construction workers to modernize Russian manufacturing with WESTERN technology including all the refinery modernizations and expansions since 2000. It is quite difficult to find any competent Russian workers outside of Moscow or St. Petersburg regions. This is NOT new. 1/3 of the Soviet industry was in Ukraine.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:17 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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When Ukraine is crushed, it might actually spark the masculine revival of the West. The figs in Europe will be shaking their boots and have to enlist
There's not a single three word phrase in that paragraph that makes any sense whatsoever.
But when do you expect Ukraine to be crushed? Year 5? Or will it take until year 6? what about the 7-9 range?
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might spark a masculine revival of the West
You really have to screw your face up to follow this logic. But it's somewhat along the lines of "I hope our team goes 2-10 so they'll fire the coach and AD and burn the program down to the ashes and start fresh."
I could make a better argument that the West rising up to crush Russia in Ukraine is an actual manly thing to do. And maybe that's what we should be hoping for our allies.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:49 pm to CitizenK
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The entire reason they wanted to join the EU is to get rid of the Russian influence and corruption.
Right.....
Posted on 8/3/25 at 1:57 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Ukraine is not western. When Ukraine is crushed, it might actually spark the masculine revival of the West. The figs in Europe will be shaking their boots and have to enlist
Ridiculous things thrown out that make no sense for 1000 alex.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:19 am to Pendulum
Igor Girkin makes a statement from prison on the possible Ukrainian offensive -
He's a mass murderer and a war criminal, but he's not stupid.
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"Ukraine is preparing for a counterstrike, a counteroffensive.
They traditionally launch their counteroffensives in August or September. Apparently, the timeline is getting tight, and in order not to disrupt the so-called 'truce' (i.e. the ultimatum previously announced by Trump), Ukraine may have coordinated with the United States to shorten the duration of that ultimatum.
In that case, we may expect the Ukrainian army to go on the offensive and start active operations on the front after August 6–7, rather than in early September, as was previously assumed if the ultimatum lasted 50 days. Despite this, Ukraine continues regular airstrikes, drone attacks, and missile launches. However, it is clear that they are still holding back significant forces, which they apparently plan to deploy in a massive strike.
The enemy has not yet used its fleet of 80 [80?] F-16s equipped with long-range precision missiles to their full extent. A simultaneous strike by such an air fleet could cause serious damage to our troops and infrastructure. This has not happened yet.
So, Ukraine is building up strength, and Trump is adjusting the ultimatum timeline accordingly. In the end, Russia will be blamed anyway — that was obvious from the start.
So, what are we left with? We must prepare for a long and difficult war against NATO — a kind of 'Crimean War 2', into which NATO countries will eventually get involved. If not as a coalition force, then at least individual countries will definitely take part."
He's a mass murderer and a war criminal, but he's not stupid.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:27 am to Coeur du Tigre
Night time bavovna. Long range drone attack on the Sochi airport. As Sochi is the home of Putin's summer palace, Vlad The Master Strategist may have to join his fellow Russians and stay at home for the August holiday.
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Sochi, the moment of arrival from the locals, they like it, the locals are thrilled.
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Because the locals understand that the plane isn’t flying for them, if they knew it would hit their houses, they wouldn’t be having so much fun.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:28 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:32 am to Coeur du Tigre
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If tweet fails to load, click here. We thought Putin's Palace would be better protected. What happened to all those air defense missile batteries surrounding the place?
Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:42 am to Coeur du Tigre
Back to the ru rail system -
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Roughly 70% of Russian locomotive railway engines are electrically powered.
Ukraine making the Donbas and Rostov on Don "electrified railway traction station deserts" will crippled Russian military logistics with the tonnages of fuel & artillery shells moved being the biggest victims.
Little fuel is crippling.
Russian AFV's [Armoured Fighting Vehicles] lack auxiliary power units, so they have to run their engines to recharge their batteries for running radios and thermal sights.
No coms= no bombs.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 3:59 am to Coeur du Tigre
Back to work... "No FSB agents took part in this investigation."
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More applicants for the Bavovna of the Week. Competition is again heating up.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 4:09 am to Coeur du Tigre
Seems like oil refineries are back on the menu, thanks to Medvedev. The refinery in Novokuybyshevsk, Samara, hit on night of Aug.1-2, continues to burn.
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 4:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
Russia launches 76 drones and 7 missiles, hitting 8 Ukrainian locations
Roman Petrenko — Sunday, 3 August 2025, 09:27
The Russian military attacked Ukraine with 83 aerial weapons, namely 76 drones, an Iskander-M ballistic missile, five S-300/S-400 anti-aircraft guided missiles and a Kh-22 cruise missile on the night of 2-3 August.
Source: Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Telegram
Details: The Air Force reports that 60 UAVs and an Iskander-M missile were shot down or suppressed by electronic warfare.
The air attack was repelled by aircraft, anti-aircraft missile forces, electronic warfare units, unmanned systems and mobile fire groups from the defence forces of Ukraine.
Six missile and 16 drone hits were recorded at eight locations, and the fall of drone debris in two locations.
Ukrainska Pravda
Roman Petrenko — Sunday, 3 August 2025, 09:27
The Russian military attacked Ukraine with 83 aerial weapons, namely 76 drones, an Iskander-M ballistic missile, five S-300/S-400 anti-aircraft guided missiles and a Kh-22 cruise missile on the night of 2-3 August.
Source: Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Telegram
Details: The Air Force reports that 60 UAVs and an Iskander-M missile were shot down or suppressed by electronic warfare.
The air attack was repelled by aircraft, anti-aircraft missile forces, electronic warfare units, unmanned systems and mobile fire groups from the defence forces of Ukraine.
Six missile and 16 drone hits were recorded at eight locations, and the fall of drone debris in two locations.
Ukrainska Pravda
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