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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:49 am to doubleb
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:49 am to doubleb
Tuition was high, but they're learning.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:02 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia
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KYIV - During a pivotal push by Ukraine to retake territory from Russia in late September 2022, Elon Musk gave an order that disrupted the counteroffensive and dented Kyiv’s trust in Starlink, the satellite internet service the billionaire provided early in the war to help Ukraine’s military maintain battlefield connectivity.
According to three people familiar with the command, Musk told a senior engineer at the California offices of SpaceX, the Musk venture that controls Starlink, to cut coverage in areas including Kherson, a strategic region north of the Black Sea that Ukraine was trying to reclaim.
“We have to do this,” Michael Nicolls, the Starlink engineer, told colleagues upon receiving the order, one of these people said. Staffers complied, the three people told Reuters, deactivating at least a hundred Starlink terminals, their hexagon-shaped cells going dark on an internal map of the company’s coverage. The move also affected other areas seized by Russia, including some of Donetsk province further east.
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Upon Musk’s order, Ukrainian troops suddenly faced a communications blackout, according to a Ukrainian military official, an advisor to the armed forces, and two others who experienced Starlink failure near the front lines. Soldiers panicked, drones surveilling Russian forces went dark, and long-range artillery units, reliant on Starlink to aim their fire, struggled to hit targets.
As a result, the Ukrainian military official and the military advisor said, troops failed to surround a Russian position in the town of Beryslav, east of Kherson, the administrative center of the region of the same name. “The encirclement stalled entirely,” said the military official in an interview. “It failed.”
Ultimately, Ukraine’s counteroffensive succeeded in reclaiming Beryslav, the city of Kherson and some additional territory Russia had occupied. But Musk’s order, which hasn’t previously been reported, is the first known instance of the billionaire actively shutting off Starlink coverage over a battlefield during the conflict. The decision shocked some Starlink employees and effectively reshaped the front line of the fighting, enabling Musk to take “the outcome of a war into his own hands,” another one of the three people said.
Reuter's Investigation. A thorough examination of what happened and the Musk cover-up following.
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:04 pm to CitizenK
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JB's was mostly geared to make people believe that Russia was marching to Kyiv and many if not most were that Russia had broken through. Basically, Lord Bebo et al overly embellishments when not outright lies.
This is true, he posted a large number of flat out lies.
He also had a habit of pretending he was an expert (in Hypersonics, Large Language Models, Military Theory), he pretended he knew important people.
His method of response to being called out on his "lack of accuracy" was to flame the other people 50% more than he was flamed, if you implied that he was Putin's deep throat, with a double entendre which included Watergate, he would make graphic sexual attacks as a reply.
Entirely because he lacked restraint.
I think he honestly got banned because he was too big of a problem who got into too many fights, with too many people.
His negative impact was just too large to ignore.
His "work" In the OT Ukraine thread was only a small part of his "work" on the Political board, he was starting 20+ topics per day and getting into fights in each one.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:39 pm to cypher
153 clashes on frontline, AFU neutralized nearly 170 occupiers in Pokrovsk sector
25.07.2025 23:56
On July 25, there were 153 clashes between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Russian invaders on the frontline. The Pokrovsk sector remains the most active, with Russians attempting 39 attacks.
According to Ukrinform, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported this on Facebook, publishing up-to-date information as of 10 p.m. on Friday, July 25.
"In total, there have been 153 combat clashes since the beginning of this day. The invaders launched one missile and 37 air strikes, using six missiles and dropping 45 guided aerial bombs. In addition, the Russians used 1,383 loitering munitions and carried out 4,524 shelling attacks on the positions of our troops and populated areas," the report said.
Since the beginning of the day in the Pokrovsk sector, the Russians have attempted to break through Ukrainian defenses 39 times in the areas of Popiv Yar, Novoekonomichne, Razine, Lysivka, Chunyshyne, Zvirove, Kotlyne, Udachne, Muravka, Novoukrainka, and Oleksiivka. Battles are ongoing in four locations.
Defense forces are holding back enemy assaults, and the enemy is suffering significant losses — today, 168 occupiers were neutralized in this sector, 113 of whom were killed. Ukrainian defenders destroyed a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, a car, eight motorcycles, nine UAVs, and a UAV control point. Three cars, three motorcycles, four artillery systems, and four personnel shelters were also significantly damaged.
summary of fighting in all sectors:
Ukrinform
25.07.2025 23:56
On July 25, there were 153 clashes between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and Russian invaders on the frontline. The Pokrovsk sector remains the most active, with Russians attempting 39 attacks.
According to Ukrinform, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported this on Facebook, publishing up-to-date information as of 10 p.m. on Friday, July 25.
"In total, there have been 153 combat clashes since the beginning of this day. The invaders launched one missile and 37 air strikes, using six missiles and dropping 45 guided aerial bombs. In addition, the Russians used 1,383 loitering munitions and carried out 4,524 shelling attacks on the positions of our troops and populated areas," the report said.
Since the beginning of the day in the Pokrovsk sector, the Russians have attempted to break through Ukrainian defenses 39 times in the areas of Popiv Yar, Novoekonomichne, Razine, Lysivka, Chunyshyne, Zvirove, Kotlyne, Udachne, Muravka, Novoukrainka, and Oleksiivka. Battles are ongoing in four locations.
Defense forces are holding back enemy assaults, and the enemy is suffering significant losses — today, 168 occupiers were neutralized in this sector, 113 of whom were killed. Ukrainian defenders destroyed a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, a car, eight motorcycles, nine UAVs, and a UAV control point. Three cars, three motorcycles, four artillery systems, and four personnel shelters were also significantly damaged.
summary of fighting in all sectors:
Ukrinform
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:21 pm to cypher
REUTERS: Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia
A previously unreported order by Elon Musk to cut satellite communications over a portion of Ukraine disrupted a counteroffensive by Kyiv in the autumn of 2022. Reuters investigated the billionaire's order and its implications for countries increasingly reliant on his Starlink internet service.
A previously unreported order by Elon Musk to cut satellite communications over a portion of Ukraine disrupted a counteroffensive by Kyiv in the autumn of 2022. Reuters investigated the billionaire's order and its implications for countries increasingly reliant on his Starlink internet service.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:34 pm to doubleb
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What many do not realize is that Russia currently holds less of Ukraine than they did in March of 2022
Many dont realize that this is largely (if not entirely) irrelevant, since the loss of territory came before any kind of lines solidified. It's worth more as a Jeopardy question than as a meaningful take way about the conflict.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:40 pm to AU86
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You people.have your head in the sand. Cope is doing the same exact thing except his propaganda is for Ukraine and JB's was propaganda was for Russia. How do we know if Cope's sources he posts are anymore legit than JB's?
JB posted celebrating Ukrainjan deaths. Cope has posted celebrating Russian deaths. That is just one example.
As long as Cope is posting what you like that is ok right? And you wonder why I call some of you hypocrites?
I will let it go but what I have posted several times stands true. Rules for me but not for thee.
A key component of free speech is consistent application of standards when you deny speech. It doesn't mean all speech everywhere must be tolerated by everyone, but the consistent application of rules when you choose to deny speech is is wildly important .
Posted on 7/25/25 at 6:34 pm to cypher
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You don't know why JB was banned.
I just assumed it was bc he was a paid poster and he was out of control with the number of daily posts which were nothing but spam for the most part..is this correct?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 7:16 pm to VolSquatch
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Many dont realize that this is largely (if not entirely) irrelevant, since the loss of territory came before any kind of lines solidified. It's worth more as a Jeopardy question than as a meaningful take way about the conflict.
Most definitely relevant. Russia had taken most of that and had set up minefields which Ukraine had to navigate especially taking back from Russia's offensive through Sumy. These minefields were NE of Kyiv. Ukraine had to cross a river for the Kharkiv offense and subsequent gun run against some of Russia's actually trained soldiers. Same for the Kherson offensive. Ukraine had made some recon raids up to the Kherson airport in late Spring of 2022, but that was stopped and Russia set up "pillboxes" with dug in T62's. That was quite a slog for Ukraine to push them all the way to the river and out of prepared defensive positions.
You may have not been paying attention back then, but that was all discussed here at least a year before your first comment on the original thread.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 7:30 pm to CitizenK
It's really not relevant, sorry boomer bob
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:25 pm to VolSquatch
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It's really not relevant, sorry boomer bob
It is extremely important. Russia burned up over 800,000 solfiers, many of their best solduers, hundreds of armored vehicles, ships, air craft, and ammunition out the wazoo and they still aren’t back to where they were three years ago.
Sure they have recently made incremental advances, but if they can’t come through this dry season then the war will go on over four years.
The war is bleeding Russia dry.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:57 am to doubleb
Well, here it is as predicted. And 200 bp in a single move only says one thing - panic.
Soon we will get X-shaped graphs of the famous reciprocal of interest rates, inflation. Classically, as interest rates fall, inflation climbs.
But there's nothing classic about the Ru economy now. The slopes will be of interest as there will be hesitation to borrow due to the fact that everyone knows interest rates will continue to drop. As military manufacturer's borrowing will be forced by the Kremlin, non-MIC borrowing will lag.
If special, even lower interest rates are offered to the MIC by the government, that could delay further rate drops. IF the loans are repaid in timely fashion. But as companies are stolen and re-sold by the Kremlin, the incentive will be to continue to owe as much as possible, thus making themselves an unattractive target.
So the initial slope will be flatter until a combination of even lower rates and the resulting increased borrowing in the civilian sector start to kick in. Then everything will accelerate. Civilians will be going to micro-lenders just to buy food.
The most important thing to remember is that inflation will move far faster than rates. Once real inflation passes available interest rates, you will see an increasingly barter economy for lower and middle classes. Currency will be of little value. Potatoes will be king.
Bank of Russia site.
Soon we will get X-shaped graphs of the famous reciprocal of interest rates, inflation. Classically, as interest rates fall, inflation climbs.
But there's nothing classic about the Ru economy now. The slopes will be of interest as there will be hesitation to borrow due to the fact that everyone knows interest rates will continue to drop. As military manufacturer's borrowing will be forced by the Kremlin, non-MIC borrowing will lag.
If special, even lower interest rates are offered to the MIC by the government, that could delay further rate drops. IF the loans are repaid in timely fashion. But as companies are stolen and re-sold by the Kremlin, the incentive will be to continue to owe as much as possible, thus making themselves an unattractive target.
So the initial slope will be flatter until a combination of even lower rates and the resulting increased borrowing in the civilian sector start to kick in. Then everything will accelerate. Civilians will be going to micro-lenders just to buy food.
The most important thing to remember is that inflation will move far faster than rates. Once real inflation passes available interest rates, you will see an increasingly barter economy for lower and middle classes. Currency will be of little value. Potatoes will be king.
Bank of Russia site.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:12 am to Coeur du Tigre
Oh dear. The July Ru Federal Budget has a 6.1 trillion Ruble deficit. That's 16.4% higher than the June budget deficit of 5.24 trillion.
16.4% in 30 days...
And, in Russia, the annual due date for personal income taxes is July 15. Could it be that people are not paying their taxes?
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16.4% in 30 days...
And, in Russia, the annual due date for personal income taxes is July 15. Could it be that people are not paying their taxes?
LINK
Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:36 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Article 8 of the Law “On martial law”, which is referred to by Putin, allows the president to impose almost any “temporary restrictions” on economic activities “for the production of products for state needs” or supply the army. In particular, the president may limit the circulation of property, the free movement of goods, access to information, change the form of ownership of organizations, the labor regime, financial, tax and banking regulation.
At the same time, such measures “can be taken both during the period of martial law and before its introduction,” the law says.
And why would Putin wish to do this? Oh, here it is -
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And in May, he signed a law on the confiscation of business from the owners for the failure of the state order in martial law.
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
And remember campers, tomorrow is the Russian Navy Day, celebrated annually in the Baltic, Pacific and (until recently) the Black Sea. Wiil we see any uninvited guests?
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:09 am to Coeur du Tigre
Too late. With the 200bp (not a typo) interest rate plunge yesterday and the anticipated following inflation boost, taxpayers - what's left of them - will soon be able to borrow Rubles at higher value than they later pay to the Ru tax receiver. The rare, elusive reverse haircut received by the taxpayer for a change.
As noted previously, this puts the Bank of Russia in a serious bind. They are driving inflation up in order to lower the service and repayment costs of their outstanding bond debt, but face even faster erosion of tax revenue for the same reasons.
The solution? Issue more debt to be force-fed to the Ru Federal States. But repayment of this, if it happens, will also be of less value that the original loan.
It's just a shame...
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:37 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Extensive thread with info about plant.
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:38 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Potatoes will be king.
About that.....
Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:51 am to cypher
9 killed, 61 injured in Russian attacks on Ukraine over past day
July 26, 2025 11:50 am
At least nine civilians were killed and 61 injured in Russian attacks across Ukraine over the past 24 hours, regional authorities reported on July 26.
Ukraine's Air Force said Russia launched 208 drones and 27 missiles overnight, targeting cities and infrastructure in multiple regions.
Air defenses intercepted 183 drones and 17 missiles, but 10 missiles and 25 drones struck nine locations. Debris from downed aircraft fell across eight additional sites.
Kharkiv Oblast faced one of the heaviest barrages, with 29 people injured, including a child, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
In Donetsk Oblast, 10 civilians were wounded, Governor Vadym Filashkin said.
Three people were killed and two injured in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, which saw 414 Russian strikes on 19 settlements, Governor Ivan Fedorov said.
In Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, two people were killed and five injured, according to Governor Serhii Lysak.
Russian strikes in Kherson Oblast killed three civilians and wounded 11, hitting both critical and social infrastructure, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said.
Russian attacks of 42 settlements in Sumy Oblast killed one and injured four, the local authorities said.
The Kyiv Independent
July 26, 2025 11:50 am
At least nine civilians were killed and 61 injured in Russian attacks across Ukraine over the past 24 hours, regional authorities reported on July 26.
Ukraine's Air Force said Russia launched 208 drones and 27 missiles overnight, targeting cities and infrastructure in multiple regions.
Air defenses intercepted 183 drones and 17 missiles, but 10 missiles and 25 drones struck nine locations. Debris from downed aircraft fell across eight additional sites.
Kharkiv Oblast faced one of the heaviest barrages, with 29 people injured, including a child, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
In Donetsk Oblast, 10 civilians were wounded, Governor Vadym Filashkin said.
Three people were killed and two injured in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, which saw 414 Russian strikes on 19 settlements, Governor Ivan Fedorov said.
In Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, two people were killed and five injured, according to Governor Serhii Lysak.
Russian strikes in Kherson Oblast killed three civilians and wounded 11, hitting both critical and social infrastructure, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said.
Russian attacks of 42 settlements in Sumy Oblast killed one and injured four, the local authorities said.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:03 am to cypher
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