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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/27/25 at 8:58 pm to trinidadtiger
Posted on 7/27/25 at 8:58 pm to trinidadtiger
EU to withhold $1.7B in aid from little Z
Little Z also screwing up his IMF paychecks
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To help with the war effort, the US should immediately return all military aged Ukrainian men who are currently under refugee status. Estimated at around 30,000. Slava Ukraini!
Little Z also screwing up his IMF paychecks
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Kyiv also has until Thursday to appoint a head of its Economic Security Bureau to continue receiving assistance from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
The IMF had vowed to provide Ukraine with $15.6 billion in aid to be distributed over four years as long as Kyiv moves forward with its anti-corruption campaign.
Zelensky had previously refused to appoint Oleksandr Tsyvinskyi, the man who led the case against Chernyshov, as the head of the bureau despite a nomination from an independent commission.
The position remains open, with no word yet on who would fill it.
To help with the war effort, the US should immediately return all military aged Ukrainian men who are currently under refugee status. Estimated at around 30,000. Slava Ukraini!
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:32 pm to doubleb
"where they were 3 years ago" means nothing. Is where they were 3 years ago their goal now? Was it their goal then? If they were there now would they quit? No. And since that answer is no, it's irrelevant. It's a trivia question.
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:33 pm to AU86
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You are correct sir.
Others have been banned for doing the exact same thing. And they should have been banned.
Cope is getting out of hand. He has gone full on Keith Olbermann.
But sadly he is defended by the majority on here.
Ukraine support at the level these people are at is a death cult essentially
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:34 pm to LSURussian
Look at his profile picture 
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:36 pm to doubleb
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Yes, but there is a point where Russia like the US in Vietnam says enough is enough.
It's been stated numerous times In this thread and the old one how this is a bad comparison
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:43 pm to VolSquatch
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"where they were 3 years ago" means nothing. Is where they were 3 years ago their goal now? Was it their goal then? If they were there now would they quit? No. And since that answer is no, it's irrelevant. It's a trivia question.
What happened three years ago is very relevant.
In spite of the odds being against them, Ukraine first halted and reversed Russia’s blitz to take Kiev. Then next they stymied Russia on the Kherson front and rolled Rusdia back there. Subsequently, Ukraine had a successful offense in Kharkiv.
The results of all of thst increased Ukrainian morale and convinced NATO to increase military aid to Ukraine.
If all that had not happened, I speculate the war would have been over already.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:50 am to CitizenK
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Another excellent assessment from Perun. This one on Russia's economy.
Very good analysis but narrator needs to slow down.
You have to have subtitles turned on for an English speaker. To me, two new issues added to Russia's financial problems are introduced at 20:30 - First, surprisingly, corporate taxes on these majors are not flexible, depending on revenue. They are fixed and must be paid even when reporting an actual (rather than accounting) loss. Sort of like mafia dons demanding fixed payment from their capos. That's got to hurt.
Secondly, major Ru corporations, particularly in O&G, had muliti-trillion Ruble hard currency reserves prior to the war. These were used as Putin's piggy bank for a number of 'state-linked financial needs', such as funding Kremlin prorities abroad and supporting the Ruble. Most of these reserves are now gone but as they were never on the books to begin with, they only now show up in the stacks of losses indirectly. Sort of stealth losses...
So as we saw earlier for example, profits of the top seven O&G corporations are down collectively 178% Y/Y 1st Quarter 2025, these two reasons help show us why. It's not just the sanctions...
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:53 am to Coeur du Tigre
More US MIC firms moving operations (and jobs) overseas.
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:35 am to Coeur du Tigre
4 killed, 40 injured in Russian attacks against Ukraine over past day
July 28, 2025 10:03 am
Russian attacks across Ukraine killed at least four civilians and injured at least 40, including children, over the past day, regional authorities reported on July 28.
Russian forces launched 324 Shahed-type attack drones and other drones, four Kh-101 cruise missiles, and three Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles against Ukraine overnight, primarily targeting Starokostiantyniv in Khmelnytskyi Oblast, the Air Force reported.
Starokostiantyniv hosts an air base of Ukraine's 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade. Ukrainian authorities largely do not disclose details on the consequences of Russian attacks against military and strategic targets, making the full extent of damage and casualties impossible to verify.
Ukrainian air defenses intercepted 309 drones and two Kh-101 missiles, according to the Air Force. Two missiles and 15 drones hit three different locations, while the Kinzhal missiles failed to reach their target, according to the statement.
A Russian drone hit an apartment building in the Darnytskyi district of Kyiv, injuring eight people, including a three-year-old child, city authorities reported. Four of the victims have been hospitalized.
Three civilians, including a minor, were injured during Russian attacks against the Nikopol district of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, according to Governor Serhii Lysak.
Russian strikes against the area on July 27 injured a 54-year-old man, damaged a school dormitory, a nine-story residential building, several cars, and started multiple fires, the governor said.
Overnight, Russian drone and artillery attacks injured a 49-year-old woman and a 15-year-old girl, damaged a school, apartment buildings, houses, farm buildings, and a power line, according to Lysak.
In Donetsk Oblast, one person was killed and three were injured in Illinivka, according to Governor Vadym Filashkin. One more civilian was wounded in Kostiantynivka.
Russian attacks injured five people in Kherson Oblast, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin reported. A multi-story residential building and 10 houses were damaged.
In Sumy Oblast, three people were killed and 20 were injured in Russian attacks, the regional military administration reported.
A Russian drone targeting a bus with evacuated residents killed three people and injured 19 near the Sumy Oblast village of Yunakivka, located about 8 kilometers (5 miles) from Ukraine's border, on July 27.
One more civilian was injured during a Russian drone attack against the Seredyna-Buda community, according to regional officials.
The Kyiv Independent
July 28, 2025 10:03 am
Russian attacks across Ukraine killed at least four civilians and injured at least 40, including children, over the past day, regional authorities reported on July 28.
Russian forces launched 324 Shahed-type attack drones and other drones, four Kh-101 cruise missiles, and three Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles against Ukraine overnight, primarily targeting Starokostiantyniv in Khmelnytskyi Oblast, the Air Force reported.
Starokostiantyniv hosts an air base of Ukraine's 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade. Ukrainian authorities largely do not disclose details on the consequences of Russian attacks against military and strategic targets, making the full extent of damage and casualties impossible to verify.
Ukrainian air defenses intercepted 309 drones and two Kh-101 missiles, according to the Air Force. Two missiles and 15 drones hit three different locations, while the Kinzhal missiles failed to reach their target, according to the statement.
A Russian drone hit an apartment building in the Darnytskyi district of Kyiv, injuring eight people, including a three-year-old child, city authorities reported. Four of the victims have been hospitalized.
Three civilians, including a minor, were injured during Russian attacks against the Nikopol district of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, according to Governor Serhii Lysak.
Russian strikes against the area on July 27 injured a 54-year-old man, damaged a school dormitory, a nine-story residential building, several cars, and started multiple fires, the governor said.
Overnight, Russian drone and artillery attacks injured a 49-year-old woman and a 15-year-old girl, damaged a school, apartment buildings, houses, farm buildings, and a power line, according to Lysak.
In Donetsk Oblast, one person was killed and three were injured in Illinivka, according to Governor Vadym Filashkin. One more civilian was wounded in Kostiantynivka.
Russian attacks injured five people in Kherson Oblast, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin reported. A multi-story residential building and 10 houses were damaged.
In Sumy Oblast, three people were killed and 20 were injured in Russian attacks, the regional military administration reported.
A Russian drone targeting a bus with evacuated residents killed three people and injured 19 near the Sumy Oblast village of Yunakivka, located about 8 kilometers (5 miles) from Ukraine's border, on July 27.
One more civilian was injured during a Russian drone attack against the Seredyna-Buda community, according to regional officials.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:45 am to cypher
Opinion piece in favor of providing Ukraine with Tomahawks, by:
Dan Rice, President of the American University Kyiv
Ben Hodges, former Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe
Breaking the Defensive Exchange Ratio: Why Ukraine Needs Long-Range Strike Capabilities
Russia has been firing cruise and ballistic missiles into Ukraine for nearly four years, causing death and destruction in what constitutes state-sponsored terrorism and acts of genocide.
Russia has launched tens of thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles at Ukraine, primarily targeting civilian infrastructure. Ukraine has mounted limited responses due to the absence of indigenous cruise missile capabilities and Western reluctance to provide such systems. Given the scale of Russian missile attacks, providing Ukraine with cruise missiles would not constitute escalation but rather represents a proportional legal response under the Law of Land Warfare.
A battery of SM-6 missiles on the Typhon platform is composed of four containerized launchers, similar to HIMARS containerized systems. Even one battery deployed to Ukraine with an undisclosed number of Tomahawk and other long-range missiles could serve as an effective deterrent against future Russian missile launches. Rules of engagement could specify that after a certain date, for every cruise or ballistic missile fired into Ukraine, one precision strike would be conducted against targets in Russia or occupied territories. The accuracy, lethality, and range of these systems would bring numerous Russian military targets within reach—including the very airfields, command centers, and production facilities that enable continued attacks on Ukrainian civilians—ensuring immediate consequences for continued aggression.
Ukrinform
Dan Rice, President of the American University Kyiv
Ben Hodges, former Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe
Breaking the Defensive Exchange Ratio: Why Ukraine Needs Long-Range Strike Capabilities
Russia has been firing cruise and ballistic missiles into Ukraine for nearly four years, causing death and destruction in what constitutes state-sponsored terrorism and acts of genocide.
Russia has launched tens of thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles at Ukraine, primarily targeting civilian infrastructure. Ukraine has mounted limited responses due to the absence of indigenous cruise missile capabilities and Western reluctance to provide such systems. Given the scale of Russian missile attacks, providing Ukraine with cruise missiles would not constitute escalation but rather represents a proportional legal response under the Law of Land Warfare.
A battery of SM-6 missiles on the Typhon platform is composed of four containerized launchers, similar to HIMARS containerized systems. Even one battery deployed to Ukraine with an undisclosed number of Tomahawk and other long-range missiles could serve as an effective deterrent against future Russian missile launches. Rules of engagement could specify that after a certain date, for every cruise or ballistic missile fired into Ukraine, one precision strike would be conducted against targets in Russia or occupied territories. The accuracy, lethality, and range of these systems would bring numerous Russian military targets within reach—including the very airfields, command centers, and production facilities that enable continued attacks on Ukrainian civilians—ensuring immediate consequences for continued aggression.
Ukrinform
Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:58 am to cypher
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A battery of SM-6 missiles on the Typhon platform is composed of four containerized launchers, similar to HIMARS containerized systems. Even one battery deployed to Ukraine with an undisclosed number of Tomahawk and other long-range missiles could serve as an effective deterrent against future Russian missile launches. Rules of engagement could specify that after a certain date, for every cruise or ballistic missile fired into Ukraine, one precision strike would be conducted against targets in Russia or occupied territories. The accuracy, lethality, and range of these systems would bring numerous Russian military targets within reach—including the very airfields, command centers, and production facilities that enable continued attacks on Ukrainian civilians—ensuring immediate consequences for continued aggression.
This war will never stop until this is done.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:28 am to doubleb
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What happened three years ago is very relevant.
In spite of the odds being against them,
You immediately discredit your argument with that first phrase because the odds against them at the time have no relevance to today
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Ukraine first halted and reversed Russia’s blitz to take Kiev. Then next they stymied Russia on the Kherson front and rolled Rusdia back there. Subsequently, Ukraine had a successful offense in Kharkiv.
The results of all of thst increased Ukrainian morale and convinced NATO to increase military aid to Ukraine.
If all that had not happened, I speculate the war would have been over already.
So its relevant because their success increased morale and support, but had they not been successful they would have immediately lost anyway?
Yes, doubleb, some morale and support is > 0 morale and support because you lost. Very astute observation, as usual.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:48 am to Coeur du Tigre
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More US MIC firms moving operations (and jobs) overseas.
Just opening a branch for the local market.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:28 am to CitizenK
Seems the European Welchers are not happy this morning. That have lost their unfair balance with the US. They had to bend the knee. Trump took them to the cleaners. I support anything that makes that group of socialist deadbeats cry uncle. Especially France.
America First!!! To hell with Europe First!!!
From the Guardian today:
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France’s prime minister, François Bayrou, said Europe had submitted to the US, on a “dark day” for the union.
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German exporters were less enthusiastic. The powerful BDI federation of industrial groups said the accord would have “considerable negative repercussions”, while the country’s VCI chemical trade association said the accord left rates “too high”.
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Ireland, one of the EU’s top exporters to the US, said on Sunday it welcomed the deal for bringing “a measure of much-needed certainty”, but that it “regrets” the baseline tariff, in a statement by its deputy prime minister, Simon Harris.
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France’s minister for Europe, Benjamin Haddad, said on Monday that the agreement would provide “temporary stability … but it is unbalanced”.
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The German bank Berenberg said the deal brought to an end the “crippling uncertainty” but said it was a victory for Trump.
America First!!! To hell with Europe First!!!
From the Guardian today:
quote:
France’s prime minister, François Bayrou, said Europe had submitted to the US, on a “dark day” for the union.
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German exporters were less enthusiastic. The powerful BDI federation of industrial groups said the accord would have “considerable negative repercussions”, while the country’s VCI chemical trade association said the accord left rates “too high”.
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Ireland, one of the EU’s top exporters to the US, said on Sunday it welcomed the deal for bringing “a measure of much-needed certainty”, but that it “regrets” the baseline tariff, in a statement by its deputy prime minister, Simon Harris.
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France’s minister for Europe, Benjamin Haddad, said on Monday that the agreement would provide “temporary stability … but it is unbalanced”.
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The German bank Berenberg said the deal brought to an end the “crippling uncertainty” but said it was a victory for Trump.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:38 am to VolSquatch
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So its relevant because their success increased morale and support, but had they not been successful they would have immediately lost anyway? Yes, doubleb, some morale and support is > 0 morale and support because you lost. Very astute observation, as usual.
Wrong
I could have gone into greater detail, but I guessed you’d understand.
Ukraine has killed or wounded hundreds of thousands of Russians. They wiped out most of their front line troops including the Wagner group.
Ukraine ran the Russian navy out of Crimea and the Black Sea. Russian air power has floundered and has never dominated the skies.
What happened at Valley Forge affected our Revolution. What happened at the Alamo affected Texas independence. Whst happened at Dunkurk helped England stay viable in WWII. What happened in the Doolittle Raid pumped up our morale.
Early events in wars matter. Morale matters. allies matter, and above all killing your enemy matters. 2022 was key for Ukraine.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:47 am to doubleb
If you disagree with him then per him you are a liar.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:48 am to VolSquatch
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Ukraine support at the level these people are at is a death cult essentially
I have never seen anything quite like it. They are Ukraine Firsters. If it wouldn't Russia you probably would not see the passion. When you combine the boomer cold war hate for the Soviet Union with the leftist hatred for Russia that developed after their once darling Soviet Union (you may be aware of the love for the Soviets from leftists in the 60's/70's.) fell you have quite strange bed fellows. Russia has been made into the ultimate boogie man for the left in part by the lies and criminal actions of Obama and his group of criminals, the MSM and neocons through the Russia hoax. That treasonous action is being brought to light now. Obama will escape but Brennan, Clapper, Comey, HRC and the rest should die in prison for their actions.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:02 am to AU86
Freedom or Safety. We know what the Founding Fathers of the US said to that.
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