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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:54 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:56 am to
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The best thing that has happened for Ukraine that caused a shift in the last few months was shutting off Russian access to Starlink. That wasn't Ukraine outsmarting anyone.


Russia was dumb to plan a war using Western Tech as a key piece. Thxs for providing another important example of Russia losing the tech war.

Sometimes you don’t have to outsmart your enemy, you can take advantage of their dumb mistakes.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:59 am to
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Sometimes you don’t have to outsmart your enemy, you can take advantage of their dumb mistakes.


I already laid this out when I said Russians were 80 IQ on average and Ukrainians were 81
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:00 am to
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It's not a silver bullet situation



Which is why I used the term "best" and not "only"
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:29 am to
August may be a tad optimistic, but we will see them next year. Could be a good time to dump your Lockheed/Raytheon stock.

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Ukrainian arms maker Fire Point said it carried out the first flight test of its FP-7.x anti-missile interceptor last week, which co-founder Denys Shtilierman labelled “pretty successful” in an interview with the FT.

Fire Point says the FP-7.x is intended to counter Russian ballistic missile and drone threats at a fraction of the cost of existing western systems, such as Lockheed Martin’s Patriot and the Franco-Italian SAMP-T, and could eventually be produced in far larger numbers.

Mass production of the missile could begin in August, Shtilierman said, pending the delivery of an infrared seeker for guidance, which Fire Point was hoping to source from Germany’s Diehl Defence. The completed missiles would be ready by 2027, he said.
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The rest of the air defence system — known as Freyja — including radars used to detect and target aircraft, and the command and control system will come from European partners. Fire Point declined to confirm or deny who it was working with, but European and Ukrainian officials say Fire Point has had discussions with Germany’s Hensoldt and Thales for radar, Italy’s Leonardo for tracking and target acquisition radar, and Norway’s Kongsberg for command and control technology.

“Finishing this depends on the speed of our western partners and when they start moving,” Shtilierman said.

US defence conglomerate Lockheed Martin produces hundreds of interceptors a year for the Patriot system but most of the production has gone to replacing stocks used up in the war with Iran.

Ukrainian experts say that the nightly drumbeat of Russian air attacks, as well as the slow replacement of the PAC-2 and PAC-3 missiles, has dented confidence in the Patriot system.

“Whatever we could, we replaced with our own domestic production, but we still cannot replace PAC-3. “We are already working with several countries . . . on the development of European anti-ballistic capabilities,” said Zelenskyy, in apparent reference to Freyja.

Shtilierman said his interceptor cost $700,000, compared with $3.8mn per missile for the Patriot PAC-3, according to 2026 budget estimates published by the US Army. Fire Point could manufacture three per day starting in August that could be stored until the seeker could be attached, he added.

The fast pace of manufacturing in Ukraine compared with western countries has, to a large part, been made possible by the war economy, which fast-tracks military production.

“Today we have probably the least bureaucratic approach to the production of anything in aerospace,” said Shtilierman.

The most difficult part of developing anti-ballistic missiles, according to defence consultant Marc Lange, is that they are hard to test. “Only lots of operational use and engineering work can help break this curse,” he said.

“On the other hand, Ukraine has the gift and the curse of constant Russian ballistic missile attacks, which is one factor that could help compress the timeline.”


Fire Point was met with scepticism last year when it announced it would build cheap cruise missiles. But it has had recent successes with its FP-1 long-range drone targeting Russian refineries and a warship near St Petersburg. The middle-range FP-2 variant is also used extensively by Ukrainian forces to hammer Russian logistical routes in Moscow-held Ukrainian regions. Zelenskyy on Wednesday confirmed the successful deployment of Fire Point’s [8 ton, 2500 lb warhead] “Flamingo” long-range missile, which he said had “struck a military plant in Cheboksary”, more than 900km beyond the front line.

Experts say the [FP-2] missiles, which are not particularly stealthy, are able to take advantage of sparse radar coverage in Russia because of the country’s size.

Unlike the Patriot, which is guided by advanced ground-based targeting radar, the FP-7.x is radar guided but uses a heat seeker for the “last mile” according to a Fire Point representative. Heat seeking is generally held to be less effective than radar targeting because of the availability of spoofing and countermeasures.

Tom Karako, a missile defence expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said that the FP-7.x could add to Ukraine’s air defence arsenal, which includes old Soviet systems, US Hawk missiles and modern German IRIS-T interceptors.

But he added that the Freyja system was unlikely to be a full substitute for more advanced systems such as the Patriot. “When you’ve got that full spectrum of threats, you need a lot of different tools,” Karako said. “The Patriot is a very exquisite capability, and so maybe ‘supplements’ may be a better formulation than ‘substitute’.”


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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:42 am to
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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:14 pm to
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I already laid this out when I said Russians were 80 IQ on average and Ukrainians were 81


I hope you don’t handicap sports.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 2:28 pm to
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I hope you don’t handicap sports.


I love wheelchair basketball
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 2:35 pm to
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I love wheelchair basketball


It’s best when they let you keep your walking stick.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 4:50 pm to
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the 8 ton, 40-foot-long Ukrainian cruise missile and its 2,500-pound warhead.


Put a couple of these into the Kerch Bridge.

I still think the symbolism of it matters tremendously. And the unrest it will create in Crimea will be a headache all of its own for Russia.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 5:01 pm to
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from Militarnyi...

MBDA is one of the world’s leading developers and manufacturers of missile systems and precision-guided weapons.

The company’s portfolio includes more than 45 missile systems in service with more than 90 countries worldwide.

The company also participates in the production of a number of key Western weapons systems, including Patriot, Meteor, Taurus, Storm Shadow/SCALP and Enforcer missiles.

Militarnyi
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Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:04 pm to
That's the part that should scare Putin:

Though a number of western countries donated various drones, Ukraine achieved drone dominance mostly on the basis of their own R&D and production. Now, though, their success is spurring massive investment from foreign countries and defense partnerships, which will significantly accelerate R&D and upscale production.

From the drone defense deals signed with the Gulf States, to the country partnerships such as the deal signed with Latvia yesterday, to the missile deal in the post above this one, Ukraine is becoming a world leader in drone and missile warfare, and the new investments are massive.

To be sure, Russia is also innovating, but their pace of innovation is simply not comparable to what Ukraine is doing.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:12 pm to
The situation for Crimea is getting very serious:

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The Russians put the pontoon bridge back in place at Chonhar to replace that bridge (which they first did when the Chonhar Bridge was taken out during the 2023 counteroffensive), but a pontoon bridge isn't a true replacement and still slows traffic down a lot.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:44 am to
More ancillary bridges in the Crimean approaches hit - North Crimean Canal, the Perekop-Armyansk route and a bridge near Stavky.

Years ago we were talking about these same bridges as they were targeted by HIMARS rockets. Now the drones - more effective, home made and vastly cheaper - are doing the job.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:47 am to
Quite ineffective against long range drones and totally ineffective against car bombs.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:48 am to
The Russians must have completed the repairs.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:51 am to
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This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 3:56 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:26 am to
The Ukrainian advances north of Lyman are threatening to cut off a giant pocket of Russian troops. There's a real danger for Russian forces in that area, and it could (for the time being) end the Russian threat to the rest of the northern part of Ukrainian-held Donetsk.

Now, Russia is still advancing in Kostaintynivka, and Ukraine is on the verge of losing an important stronghold protecting Kramatorsk, so I don't want to overplay this and pretend that Ukraine has stopped Russia in the Donbas, but what's happening north of Lyman bears watching.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:52 am to
The bridges to Crimea were supposed to have been blown up to stop Russia invading the mainland, but local offices were bribed. It would be fun to watch Ukraine invade Crimea via these bridges one day
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