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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:41 am to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:41 am to
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Many of the most hardcore Ukraine boys here don’t really hold America first


While it may not be most, there are several.on.here that fit this category. They have Ukraine's interests far ahead of anything else. The same goes for Europe.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 7:44 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:05 am to
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But if you take away Couer I think this topic is reasonably even split, and reasonably pro American.



I don't think his content is anti-American, but its not necessarily pro either. It is obviously extremely pro-Ukraine though.

Also just as a general point about the pro-Ukraine posters, most of them are vocally pro-America but the policies they support aren't always such. If anything some of them are pro-Europe and effectively see America as nothing more than a defense guarantor, though they would never admit that.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:06 am to
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Hang on tight panicans looks like we are sending long range offensive strike missiles to Ukraine. Its about to get bumpy for you comrades and Putin worshippers.

Theiir “best in the world” air defense sysrem has already been shredded in Russua and Iran by oir left overs. They are sitting ducks


I'm sure someone such as yourself who has advocated for the use of nuclear weapons is giddy at the thought of people dying via missile strikes
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8426 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:10 am to
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Then again give all trade with Europe to Russia and China is what the politards want, which eventually chokes off the USA globally


Yeah you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why the "politards" (which is just what the leftoid idiots here call anyone to the right of Joe Biden) are so vocal about trade issues and disparties.

I think MAGA goes too far with the trade stuff. But its also very important to acknowledge the national security implications of key resources being manufactured overseas. Its obviously bad when we are relying on China. But with Europe being in an absolute tailspin toward becoming far left, 'migrant' occupied hell-holes, I don't think we can even consider some European countries long term safe havens for key widgets anymore.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:12 am to
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we haven't made those high pressure reactors here for decades now



More made up lies

There are like a dozen of them being built on the Houston ship channel alone as I type this

Stop making up shite dude


The fact that many posters here still listen to, upvote, and praise the takes of this absolute clown should ruin any credibility they have. He is literally a proven liar
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:56 am to
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There are like a dozen of them being built on the Houston ship channel alone as I type this


The reactors are made in Italy, Japan, South Korea or China. Usually around 3,000 psig of Chrom Moly steel and a 347SS weld overlay on process surfaces. they range in size from 8 to 14 feet in diameter and 60 to 100 feed on the straight side.

You don't know shiite from shinola about them. You might want to stop showing your ignorance
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 9:14 am to
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The reactors are made in Italy, Japan, South Korea or China.


Exactly. I haven't seen a US built high pressure reactor go into a plant in a very, very long time.

A dozen being built on the Houston ship channel seems laughable.

The US plant build I'm most familiar with was a German design and all German engineering (and some of the equipment as well). But the reactors, compressor, and turbines were all Japanese. It seemed more than a little ironic to me given that we won WWII and Germany and Japan were in ruins. The world moves on.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41431 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:15 am to
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But the reactors, compressor, and turbines were all Japanese


Today, the most common gas turbines in the US are built here in the US.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42756 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:17 am to
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There are like a dozen of them being built on the Houston ship channel alone as I type this Stop making up shite dude


Settle this pissing contest now.

Who is making high pressure reactors on the Houston Ship Channel? Which company(companies)?

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:27 am to
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Today, the most common gas turbines in the US are built here in the US.


Dumbass, steam turbines in a hydrocracker unit. I see mostly Ahlstrom or Siemens gas turbines these days.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:39 am to
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Exactly. I haven't seen a US built high pressure reactor go into a plant in a very, very long time.

A dozen being built on the Houston ship channel seems laughable.

The US plant build I'm most familiar with was a German design and all German engineering (and some of the equipment as well). But the reactors, compressor, and turbines were all Japanese. It seemed more than a little ironic to me given that we won WWII and Germany and Japan were in ruins. The world moves on.


I have seen US made high pressure (3000 psig) reactors but for renewable fuels and tinker toy size compared to those in refining. 28 inch ID by Fabwell in Tulsa. In another project for biomass to GTL chrome moly only due zero sulphur and also tinker toy size, by Bise Welding, Houston, only 1750 psig. That is over the last 10 years.

Ariel compressors, Union made in Ohio, have made a big dent into the hydroprocessing marketplace over the years. IR HHE's are no longer the gold standard for make up hydrogen. I still see IR barrel compressors for hydrogen recycle compressors, even rebuilt ones for new installations. The last new IR compressors I am aware of for hydrocracking was a cancelled project for Chevron in Pascagoula, cancelled 10-15 years ago. It was to be an ebulliting (like a percolator) hydrocracker for residuals from very heavy Venezuelan crude.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 10:46 am
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:26 pm to
I’m just ready for this war to end. We need to be focusing on China and China only. Europeans see us as the enemy now too so frick them. I say make them back up the shite they are talking about being independent of the U.S. and able to stand on their own when they good and damn well NATO doesn’t exist or matter with no United States. Russia is a flea on a horses back to the U.S. military. We need to be focusing all our energy on new tech on all levels of the battlefield. We need to be leading the way in drones, not so far behind it’s laughable. We need to keep pumping out stealth aircraft and field the first operational 6th generation fighter in history. Most of all though, we need to seriously pay attention to our Navy. We need at least 2 dozen more Arleigh Burke destroyers, a dozen new submarines, 10-15 more landing ships and 2-4 more aircraft carriers which means all that comes with 2-4 brand new carrier strike groups. We also seriously need to work on our merchant marine because the number of ships to just transport our gear, food, medicine, etc in a war is dependent on regular commercial ships. In WWII we built so many Liberty ships because we pre-built huge sections then put them together like a puzzle and welded them together. Today’s world won’t be as easy. We need dozens of tanker ships for fuel, several large roll-on, roll-off ships and just plain Panamax cargo ships. More of everything. We need to get into the hypersonic missile game way more than we are and we have to have a clear definition what Japan, South Korea and Australia would do if China went for Taiwan. They are the 3 main allies in the area and we would need them all as South Korea would likely be tasked with handling North Korea. Even being outnumbered by Kim’s troops, the South’s vastly better trained and equipped land and air forces would destroy the north. Keeping the fatty from launching a nuke would be the primary concern there. The South knows where a large percentage of the north stores its nuclear armament so I would expect South Korean F-15 Strike Eagles, F-35s and F-16s for fighter support would immediately go straight for those weapons. As far Ukraine and Russia, its time to stop this shite. Freeze the lines, end the war because this is WWI style war with FPV drones. It has to stop and as bad as I hate for Putin to be awarded land for being an aggressor and invader but everything his shite army has taken they bombed to rubble so good luck rebuilding with that economy already on a knife edge trying to find the tens of billions of dollars to rebuild entire towns and oblasts while also having to completely rebuild its military from the ground up. The fact that Putin hasn’t sat for talks just shows you he’s either got a life altering medical diagnosis or he's just lost his mind entirely thinking he can be this century’s Peter the Great when in reality he’s a ratty looking little midget with a serious little man complex. I’mm shocked one of the Russian higher ups hasn't attempted a coup and tried to kill Putin and his drinking buddy Medvedev.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8426 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
Be sure to look behind you while backpedaling, Citizen
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5738 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:00 pm to
Anton Gerashchenko
@Gerashchenko_en

Matthew Whitaker, United States Permanent Representative to NATO:

I think we all need to understand that really China thinks they're fighting a proxy war through Russia. And we're seeing in some statements by the Chinese government that they want to keep the United States and our allies occupied with this war so that we can't focus on our other strategic challenges. And that's just not true.

It's not going to happen. China, I think, is miscalculated, but I think they need to be called out for their subsidizing this killing that is happening on the battlefields in Ukraine.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42756 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:02 pm to
You popped in just in time to help the Aggie with the list of who is making high pressure reactors on the Houston Ship Channel? Which company(companies)?

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8426 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:11 pm to
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You popped in just in time to help the Aggie with the list of who is making high pressure reactors on the Houston Ship Channel? Which company(companies)?



I didn't make the claim, that's up to him to back up.

DoubleB white knighting for Citizen, as usual. I hope he takes you out to dinner or something

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 1:42 pm to
What backpedaling? I just proved that AGsoyboy makes baseless claims then Tigris backed me up being in a similar profession

The US refineries were FCC (cat cracker) oriented needed more gasoline. European refineries have long been hydrocracker oriented due it produces more diesel than FCC's and less gasoline than FCC's. For residuals US refiners were the masters of petroleum coke which took off in the early 1980's as new markets were developed by a German steel company and commodities trader.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Operative term here: "the Trump administration".
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Who is making high pressure reactors on the Houston Ship Channel? Which company(companies)?


No one. In fact most pressure vessel manufacturing is on the NW and North sides of Houston. There is a small shop in League City. Tulsa is still the fired heater, heat exchanger center of the US. There are pressure vessels made there too, high pressure ones are tinker toy size such as those seven installed at Silicon Valley based KiOR in Columbus, MS to deoxygenate a synthetic diesel made from pine trees, which ended up being hazardous waste and never made it to the hydrogenation process. $500 million to make 500 BPD and faked its research to sucker Mississippi out of $200 million or so.
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