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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:38 am to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:38 am to
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I stopped making predictions and speculations about this war years ago but it seems like something major has occurred occurred over the last couple of weeks in Moscow.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:48 am to
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1. Training of Ukrainian troops was accelerated during the 1st Trump presidency.

2. Trump was the first to provide Ukrainians with lethal aid back in 2018.


This is true. It's also true that it ended the second Trump took office for the second time.
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3. The USA has continued to supply Ukraine with intelligence and other levels of indirect support since the start of the 2nd Trump presidency. By the time that Trump returned to office, Ukraine no longer needed direct support from the USA.

4. The Trump administration has allowed weapons to be delievered to Ukraine despite our own conflicts. In early March, a batch of Patriot missiles which were purchased by Germany were delievered to Ukraine. Trump could have easily invoked national security concerns to have those interceptors sent to the Middle East instead. However, he did not. He allowed them to go to Ukraine.


Great. But we've cut actual aid to next to nothing and repeatedly blamed and humilited them in a failed attempt to get them to hand over the country.

Look, you and I can argue about this all we want but, again, the Ukrainians aren't stupid. They know damn well who was for them and who was against them, and this is going to cost us. Maybe not a lot, but we stood to gain IMMENSELY by backing the Ukrainians, and our policies since 2024 have done nothing to help that.
Posted by TballWed
Member since May 2026
107 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:51 am to
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What you just said is bullshite. Here are the reasons why.

1. Training of Ukrainian troops was accelerated during the 1st Trump presidency.

2. Trump was the first to provide Ukrainians with lethal aid back in 2018.

3. The USA has continued to supply Ukraine with intelligence and other levels of indirect support since the start of the 2nd Trump presidency. By the time that Trump returned to office, Ukraine no longer needed direct support from the USA.

4. The Trump administration has allowed weapons to be delievered to Ukraine despite our own conflicts. In early March, a batch of Patriot missiles which were purchased by Germany were delievered to Ukraine. Trump could have easily invoked national security concerns to have those interceptors sent to the Middle East instead. However, he did not. He allowed them to go to Ukraine.


Not to mention that literally every Ukrainian long-range drone uses 2 Starlink units on there, you take that away and all their drone tech is nothing more than an oversized RC hobby planes. In fact most of their drone range and communications go to shite. Their targeting is assisted with real time US intel.

Their mid-range drones are all courtesy of American drone companies like White Stork Group which Trump admin allowed to partner to improve the drone tech. Most of quality mid-range drones R&D is done on US soil or Europe. All Ukraine provides is a testing ground.



Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:09 pm to
Gee, how generous.

You mean that the US government allowed the Ukrainians the opportunity to buy products from the US Tech industry, the main backers of JD Vance? That the one group of people, the moneymen, who could whisper into the Trump administration's ear and say "Uh, we want to sell potentially billions of dollars of our product to the Ukrainians so we need you to stay out of it" got to do so?

Wow. Where do we build the Trump statue....

Guys, there isn't going to spin the fact that the US government did everythign the could, at least in a passive sense, to help the Russians. When Trump grinned and told the reporters that (and I quote) the Russians are "Really pounding them" people figured out pretty quickly who he was rooting for. It's only gotten worse as Trump has repeatedly lifted sanctions on the Russians while this war has gone on, much of that happening before the Iran war.

We haven't done our part, and again, debating it doesn't make us look any less guilty.

The 'midget' as some of you like to refer to Z as, is winning, and is going to win.

Good for him.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:35 pm to
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1. Training of Ukrainian troops was accelerated during the 1st Trump presidency.

2. Trump was the first to provide Ukrainians with lethal aid back in 2018.


This is true. It's also true that it ended the second Trump took office for the second time.




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Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine is the name given to the mission of training the Armed Forces of Ukraine. 7th Army Training Command oversees the JMTG-U mission, currently manned by Task Force Alpine, 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, Vermont Army National Guard who assumed responsibility from Task Force Saber, 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment, Tennessee Army National Guard on Feb. 19, 2026.

The U.S.-led training for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is overseen by U.S. European Command, U.S. Army Europe and Africa, and the Security Assistance Group-Ukraine; is led by 7ATC; and supported by a myriad of other organizations, including JMTG-U. It represents the continuation of a world-wide effort to help Ukraine defend itself from Russia's brutal and unprovoked war.
US Army's own website.

If Trump stopped the training when he returned to office then why did Task Force Alpine assume command of training Ukrainian troops in Germany on 02/19/2026?

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After years of delay, Ukraine’s Air Force is flying the F-16 fighter jets it’s received from NATO — and, during a training visit this month, we saw for ourselves how these “Vipers” are remaking the battlefield both in and from the skies.

Ukrainian F-16s are striking Russian assets and engaging Russian aircraft, missiles and drones more effectively than the UAF’s old Soviet-era aircraft ever could.

However, Kyiv still needs help with maintenance, training and munitions to bring the full warfighting capability of the F-16 to the fight.

The Ukrainians now have a mix of Danish, Dutch and Norwegian Vipers, flown by English-speaking Ukrainian pilots who previously piloted Soviet-era aircraft like the MiG-29 and Su-27.

With training from the United States, the Netherlands, Romania and other European partners, Ukraine’s F-16 pilots have done great work — especially in engaging Russian cruise missiles and Iranian-designed Shaheed drones, taking pressure off ground-based defenders.
Article from 05/29/2025

If Trump had stopped all aid to Ukraine and stopped training when he returned to office. Then why was the USAF still training Ukrainian F16 pilots last May?

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Great. But we've cut actual aid to next to nothing and repeatedly blamed and humilited them in a failed attempt to get them to hand over the country.


No we just stopped providing them free aid. We are still providing them with aid it is just classified as indirect aid since Europeans are paying for it instead of the American taxpayer paying for it. It does not matter to Ukraine because

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Look, you and I can argue about this all we want


No we cannot. You a dumbass who believes the lies the international MSM media tells you. I have already fact checked you and disproved your first argument. So you take your bullshite lies and go suck a Ukrainian dick.

P.S. I actually have friends in Ukraine and went and volunteered in a children's hospital in Kharkiv in the summer of 2022. So I am no Russian lover. Actually if you look through my post history you will see that I am probably the biggest Ukrainian supporter here. However, they are spewing a bunch of bullshite because they are not happy that Trump stopped providing them with cash for them to steal. I love the Ukrainians but they are corrupt AF. Not as corrupt as they used to be or as corrupt as Russia but still corrupt.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Didn't you, like five minutes ago, insinuate that Ukrainians have IQ's in the low-80's?


Yeah, what does that have to do with anything?

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134870 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:43 pm to
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If you really believe that then you are a dumbass.
Res ipsa loquitur...
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26469 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Putin and his cronies are going to go with the "the West tried to attack us/bring us down/we were actually forced into this war" BS. I don't know it it's going to work



Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:29 pm to
Leopold's TDS blinds him to reality
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:41 pm to
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Leopold's TDS blinds him to reality


I noticed.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28555 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:54 pm to
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but it seems like something major has occurred occurred over the last couple of weeks in Moscow.

Thinking like a rational Westerner, the shift may be due to the obvious fact that Ukrainian drone tech has gotten to the point that they can strike almost anywhere in Russia at will. There appears to be nothing Russia can do at this time to reverse that.

I understand that Russians may reach different conclusions based upon a hundred or more years of information control.

But it does appear that something large is shifting.

Might be time to return to links to Russian Media Monitor. That would be fascinating to see changes in the messaging.

NOTE: The latest on Russian Media Monitor is that they are saying that the only way to win in Ukraine is by using tactical nuclear weapons.

Yup. Something has changed.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 4:00 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 4:37 pm to
Yermak officially charged in corruption probe.


The crazy thing is that most Ukrainians knew that Yermak was corrupt, and yet Zelensky kept him on as his right-hand man for a long time after that.

On the one hand, this is going to end up reflecting very poorly on Zelensky's judgment. On the other, the indictment shows that Ukrainian prosecutors will continue to go after anyone and everyone, and that no one is above the law. It would have been far more convenient to sweep this under the rug, but that's not what happened.

Obviously, I'm assuming that Zelensky isn't personally implicated (and I obviously don't think that he will be).
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 4:40 pm to
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The crazy thing is that most Ukrainians knew that Yermak was corrupt, and yet Zelensky kept him on as his right-hand man for a long time after that.


Afterall we do live in Louisiana with a GOP governor allied with some of the EWE bunch.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41304 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 5:26 pm to
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We haven't done our part


- Mike, 47, 308 pounds, lives in mothers basement
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:58 pm to
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We haven't done our part


We have gone above and beyond our obligation of *checks notes* absolutely nothing.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4329 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:41 am to
This is an issue like no other issue in this war. Massive, state-organized kidnapping of children is a crime everyone can understand, no one can ignore and for which there is no defense for Russia and the Russians. Notice that from a country built on thousands of lies issued daily, there is no organized propaganda narrative offered by their government or media to defend these crimes. It is indefensible.

This infamy will far outlive this war in the minds of the entire world and remain a permanent stain on any post-war Russian society.


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And if we think that history will not judge others for the actions they took or didn't, this issue is far too big to ignore that -
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Zelensky thanked the UK, Canada and EU for new sanctions on Russian structures and individuals involved in abducting Ukrainian children. Britain now lists 85 people and entities, Canada adds 23 people and 5 groups, and the EU sanctions 16 people and 7 entities.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:08 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4329 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:58 am to
Germany now sees the path for recovery from the Merkel catastrophe. Not China, but Ukraine. The Poles understandably wish to continue building their economy without the Germans, but the Ukrainians are very thankful for this growing relationship.


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the math behind 50K is the underrated part - Russia's monthly recruitment intake runs 30-40K, so the threshold isn't symbolic, it's the point where attrition outpaces replenishment. deep-strike is the multiplier that makes ground drone volume count
The Ukrainians have seen a significant tactical advantage in the use of ground drones, something no one else can see at this point. Experience and something about the mother of invention...
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:05 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:59 am to
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This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 8:22 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:24 am to
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The crazy thing is that most Ukrainians knew that Yermak was corrupt, and yet Zelensky kept him on as his right-hand man for a long time after that.

On the one hand, this is going to end up reflecting very poorly on Zelensky's judgment. On the other, the indictment shows that Ukrainian prosecutors will continue to go after anyone and everyone, and that no one is above the law. It would have been far more convenient to sweep this under the rug, but that's not what happened.

Obviously, I'm assuming that Zelensky isn't personally implicated (and I obviously don't think that he will be).


1. Zelensky is corrupt. You know how I know this? He is Ukrainian that is how.

2. Zelensky is less corrupt that other Ukrainian leaders. You know how I know this? He has kept the level of stealing limited so that the Ukrainian economy has not crapped out and the Ukrainian military is effective. Unlike Putin and the other Russia leaders who have sacrificed their military capability in order to continue enriching themselves even though they are already rich AF.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:32 am to
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We haven't done our part


We have gone above and beyond our obligation of *checks notes* absolutely nothing.


Wrong. We were obligated to bring the issue up at an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council. We did that and that was all we were obligated to do. Everything else that we have done was because we felt like it.
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