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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:23 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:23 am to
I'm sure this is more complex that it looks. Everything coming out of Brussels is.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:29 am to
Come on White House - Do.The.Right.Thing.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:31 am to
Jesus. My high school girlfriend just came out of the bathroom with her bra in her purse...


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Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:42 am to
LINKThe Japanese just gave them so advanced satellite tracking technology
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 1:45 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5729 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 6:07 am to
Ukraine's air defence downs 108 Russian UAVs overnight, 10 hits recorded

STANISLAV POHORILOV — Monday, 14 July 2025, 08:44

Russian forces attacked Ukraine with four S-300/400 surface-to-air guided missiles as well as 136 Shahed loitering munitions and decoy drones of various types on the night of 13-14 July.

Source: Ukraine's Air Force

Details: Early reports indicate that as of 08:30, air defence had downed 61 Russian Shahed UAVs and other types of drones in Ukraine's north, east and centre.

In addition, 47 decoy drones disappeared from radar or were suppressed by electronic warfare.

Hits by 28 UAVs have been recorded at 10 locations, while debris from downed aerial assets has fallen in four.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:29 am to
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if true, i guess this is how you start ww3.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17727 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:45 am to
Make Putin put his money where his mouth is. He’s never been under this kind of pressure before. This is how peace through strength is supposed to look.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:03 am to
Kursk 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Make Putin put his money where his mouth is. He’s never been under this kind of pressure before. This is how peace through strength is supposed to look.



I just wish it were happening in defense of a country worth giving a damn about
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Axios is reporting that Trump will announce a new plan to arm Ukraine tomorrow, including with offensive long-range weapons:


They need air power to put a stop to those glide bombs and to take away Putin's ground force advantage.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:23 am to
Trump's envoy Kellogg arrives in Kyiv – photo, videos

Iryna Kutielieva, STANISLAV POHORILOV — Monday, 14 July 2025, 09:18

Andrii Yermak, Head of the Ukrainian President's Office, has reported that Keith Kellogg, US President Donald Trump's Special Envoy for Ukraine, arrived in Kyiv on Monday 14 July.

Source: European Pravda, citing Yermak on Telegram

Details: Defence, strengthening security, weapons, sanctions, protection of civilians and enhancing cooperation between Ukraine and the United States are among the topics the Ukrainian officials want to raise during Kellogg's visit.

"Russia does not want to cease fire. Peace through strength is the principle of US President Donald Trump and we support this approach," Yermak wrote.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:47 am to
makes sense - hit the airbases supporting glide bomb and cruise missile attacks

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Military Watch Magazine reports that Trump is considering the possibility of supplying Ukraine with long-range JASSM missiles. The basic version has a range of approximately 370 km, while the JASSM-ER modification can reach up to 1,000 km.

Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:50 am to
the play was always for the west to use ukraine as a proxy to go after russia. we shoot our long range missles into russia but they can only hit back in ukraine. i don't think russia is going to play that game anymore. the west could give a shite about ukraine. trump was never the peace candidate.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:52 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:55 am to
quote:

the play was always for the west to use ukraine as a proxy to go after russia. we shoot our long range missles into russia but they can only hit back in ukraine


For what reason?

quote:

i don't think russia is going to play that game anymore. the west could give a shite about ukraine. trump was never the peace candidate.


Trump gave Putin several opportunities to negotiate, and Putin thumbed his nose at Trump.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8424 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:56 am to
quote:

the play was always for the west to use ukraine as a proxy to go after russia. we shoot our long range missles into russia but they can only hit back in ukraine. i don't think russia is going to play that game anymore. the west could give a shite about ukraine. trump was never the peace candidate.



Well yeah, it was always about who they are fighting and not who they themselves are.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8424 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:05 am to
quote:

the play was always for the west to use ukraine as a proxy to go after russia. we shoot our long range missles into russia but they can only hit back in ukraine


For what reason?


-Arms sales

-a live testing ground for modern arms and tactics

-war with Russia without US casualties

-erode Russia's global standing
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:22 am to
quote:

-Arms sales


Arm sales have been ongoing, we don’t have to send missiles into Russia to enable that to happen.

quote:

-a live testing ground for modern arms and tactics


That’s already happening.

quote:

-war with Russia without US casualties

That’s already happening also.

quote:

-erode Russia's global standing

Firing missiles does that?

Again, if firing missiles into Russia was the ultimate goal as stated, then why have we been so reluctant to give Ukraine the missiles?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135089 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:28 am to
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-erode Russia's global standing
Russia doesn't need the west's help doing that.

Russia's "global standing" was greatly eroded in February, 2022 after months of announcing to the world the military buildup along Ukraine's eastern and northern borders was a routine training exercise and then announcing the training exercise was completed and the tanks and personnel were being put on trains to return to their bases.

Then two days later Russia crossed the Rubicon....er, border, and invaded a peaceful neighbor who was not a threat to Russia.

Putin exposed himself that day.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:32 am to
Status of the Ex OT Ukraine Warrior Troskyites this morning.


This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:38 am
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