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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 1/17/26 at 11:37 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 11:37 am to
Greenland like Iceland, Norway, Canada, etc. are all defended under the NATO umbrella. The US doesn’t need to own it to defend it or position our military there for other purposes.

Is this all a distraction? It seems with Ukraine, Iran, Gaza, and Venezuela all at the fire front do we need to get all bent out of shape about Greenland?
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 11:52 am to
I don't think it's a distraction. I think Trump wants to expand America's borders and thinks he's found a way. I think he's dead serious about running again as president and is a power hungry old-coot.

The Boomers are literally going to destroy democracy.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:16 pm to
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The Boomers are literally going to destroy democracy.


The boomers aren’t going to destroy anything.
At least I’m not, lol.

Right now I believe the fourth estate has done more to destroy our way of life than anybody else.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:39 pm to
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I think he's dead serious about running again as president and is a power hungry old-coot.


You’re a lunatic.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:46 pm to
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Right now I believe the fourth estate has done more to destroy our way of life than anybody else.


It would be more accurate to call it "the Fifth Column."
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 12:47 pm to
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It would be more accurate to call it "the Fifth Column."


I wouldn’t argue that you aren’t correct.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:02 pm to
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Ukraine is providing a symmetrical response to Russia’s energy terror by striking 'occupied fortresses'. ?Melitopol is not only the administrative capital of occupied Zaporizhzhia but also the primary logistical node for the land bridge to Crimea.Disabling the substation leaves not just the public, but military logistics, communications, and radar systems 'blind'.Russia's attempt to build a new energy corridor between Mariupol and Melitopol has become a strategic wreck even before completion.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 4:25 pm to
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I don't think it's a distraction. I think Trump wants to expand America's borders and thinks he's found a way. I think he's dead serious about running again as president and is a power hungry old-coot.

The Boomers are literally going to destroy democracy


Round of applause for a "military analyst" folks
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13223 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:28 pm to
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I think he's dead serious about running again as president and is a power hungry old-coot.

Well that just opinion....and bullshite.

Even the majority of hard core Trump supporters don't believe this.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:04 pm to
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Greenland like Iceland, Norway, Canada, etc. are all defended under the NATO umbrella. The US doesn’t need to own it to defend it or position our military there for other purposes.

Is this all a distraction? It seems with Ukraine, Iran, Gaza, and Venezuela all at the fire front do we need to get all bent out of shape about Greenland?


I will just keep repeating what is becoming more and more obvious...

Trump believes in a world where the U.S., Russia and China are the three big dominant powers each controlling their own hemispheres of influence... he believes Russia will conquer Europe... and thinks that's fine, might makes right, and he prefers Putin to European leaders.

As arctic ice melts, shipping routes will change to go through the arctic more regularly... making shipping from Russia and China much easier that way, and making Greenland and its territorial waters more important...

But, Greenland is also full of natural resources the usual types are dying to get their hands on, and are pushing him to do it. Citizen K will probably now pop in to tell which resources, etc.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:16 pm to
In a masterstroke of diplomatic timing, Vladimir Putin has extended an unconditional olive branch to Europe, declaring Russia ready to "restore diplomatic relations with all European countries, without any expectations". This announcement comes at the precise moment the transatlantic alliance is collapsing under the weight of the Greenland crisis.

The contrast is stark and calculated. While the United States (under Trump/Musk) is threatening tariffs, declaring NATO allies "incompetent," and demanding territory (Greenland), Russia is presenting itself as the "reasonable" alternative, offering stability and energy security with "no strings attached".

This move is designed to exploit the "Puppet Master" narrative exposed by Elon Musk. Musk told the world that Western leaders are "actors" controlled by hidden forces; Putin is effectively offering these leaders a new script. By appealing to the "Old Guard" of Europe (symbolized by the imagery of Merkel and Macron), Putin is proposing a "Eurasian Peace" that excludes the chaotic, demanding Americans. It is the final wedge to separate the "Fortress America" from the European continent.


Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:39 pm to
and...

Boston Herald: Canada inks trade deal with China in break from Trump agenda

China and Canada reached a wide-ranging agreement to lower trade barriers and rebuild ties, signaling a pivot in Canadian foreign policy and a break from alignment with President Trump’s trade agenda.

Prime Minister Mark Carney said he expects China to cut tariffs on Canadian rapeseed, also known as canola, after meeting Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Friday, in the first visit by a Canadian leader to Beijing in eight years.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4329 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:33 am to
371 is more than one per day, and these are just in Russia itself, none counted were in occupied territory.


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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:36 am to
Canada has always been friendly with Communist China in trade as has Cuba and a host of other nations not friendly with the US.

So MEH
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:45 am to
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Trump believes in a world where the U.S., Russia and China are the three big dominant powers each controlling their own hemispheres of influence... he believes Russia will conquer Europe... and thinks that's fine, might makes right, and he prefers Putin to European leaders.


I think Trump plays hardball with Europe mostly because he is still mad about how European leaders treated him during Trump admin 1. I think that's extremely childish, and I'm not one to shy away from criticizing Trump, but that is just a bunch of fan fiction
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:05 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:21 am to
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I think Trump plays hardball with Europe mostly because he is still mad about how European leaders treated him during Trump admin 1. I think that's extremely childish, and I'm not one to shy away from criticizing Trump, but that is just a bunch of fan fiction


Europe has been screwing US manufacturing, for decades, with regs solely to exclude US products. Additionally, while European nations have anti bribery laws for any of their companies working overseas, they don't enforce them at all, while the US does. They use bribery to undercut superior US companies. As long as those companies bring those profits back to invest at home, its isn't even taxed, even if taxes are on paper.

For countries the US has sanctioned, or banned sales to, European countries, and especially Canada, have ordered those same products and sold to where banned. Lots and lots of oilfield drilling equipment went to Libya and the USSR via Canada and France

As far as Canada, they took over at least the nickel mining in Cuba, developed by US based American Metal Climax, aka AMAX, which had built a giant nickel ore processing plant south of New Orleans at Braithwaite.

The French housed the Ayatollah and leading clerics at Neufchateau for years before they and the UK flew them into Iran long after the protests had been underway in Iran, late 1970's.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 7:24 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:42 am to
So, we seize tankers and oil destined for Russia, and China to achieve this. Also, the production from oilfields both have spent money on. Let me see, last time I checked $100 billion from China and $20 billion spent by Rosneft are now effectively controlled by the US

Got it.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 7:44 am
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1861 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:50 am to
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and thinks that's fine, might makes right,


The way he is threatening to take Greenland if the Danes won't sell makes me believe he does believe in this instance might makes right. You just don't threaten to invade another NATO nation.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:46 am to
Putin's negotiator.

Russia welcomes Trump's tariffs on NATO allies over Greenland as 'collapse' of alliance

January 18, 2026 4:18 pm

Russian officials welcomed U.S. President Donald Trump's threat to impose tariffs on NATO allies over Greenland, with Kremlin economic negotiator Kirill Dmitriev claiming on Jan. 17 that the move signals the "collapse" of the transatlantic alliance.

Trump earlier said that Washington would impose 10% tariffs on NATO allies — France, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands, and Finland — until the U.S. reaches a deal to buy Greenland. He has threatened to acquire the island "one way or the other."

"The transatlantic alliance is over," Dmitriev wrote on X, mocking European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and urging European leaders not to "provoke" Trump.

The tariffs will take effect on Feb. 1 and increase to 25% on June 1, Trump said. He threatened the tariffs just days after European forces from France, Germany, and other countries began arriving for exercises in Greenland.

The Kyiv Independent
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