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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:57 pm to
Dude is clueless who claims to sell off the shelf high pressure compressors to refineries and that there are many hydrocracker reactor manufacturers in Houston. He probably doesn't know what they are. He doesn't know that Shell sells off assets which are not strategic to its overall market. The owner when I was there was Tristream a company closing its doors.

The Smackover trend is named after its first oil/gas found in Smackover, AR. The drilling crew died from H2S which has no odor if no mercaptans. Heavy high sulfur crude oil come from it in Mississippi and Alabama. It's good from refining into asphalt.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:57 pm to
Did the Ruskies run out of camoflauge paint?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:31 pm to
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The drilling crew died from H2S which has no odor if no mercaptans.
For reasons of safety, a slight revisit. As I'm sure you're aware, natural gas has no odor if mercaptans are not added. H2S has a very distictive smell of rotten eggs. For those that maintain consciousness, that is. H2S also quickly numbs the sense of smell, so if you do smell it and stay upright, you will only smell it once, nullifying your nose as a further warning system. As no respirator is effective against H2S, drop whatever you're doing and get TF out of the area and report it.

Ok, our safety minute is over.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 3:12 pm to
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H2S has a very distictive smell of rotten eggs


Wrong,

H2S itself has no odor, the mercaptans give it the rotten egg smell. Anyone who has work in maintaining hydrotreating reactors in a refinery knows this as well. Hydrotreating turns elemental sulfur and sulfur compounds into H2S for ease of removal
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41306 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 3:31 pm to
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The owner when I was there was Tristream a company closing its doors.


And before that Dynegy owned it.

Shell had two fields nearby that fed the plant and they had contracts with Dynegy.

This is common knowledge in East Texas
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 3:37 pm to
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mercaptans give it the rotten egg smell


And if you happen to have a large odorizer leak that gets into the ground, the cleanup is a huge pain in the arse. Like hauling hundreds of truck loads of dirt offsite for treatment and disposal big. Happens mostly at NG city gates or hubs occasionally.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:19 pm to
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And if you happen to have a large odorizer leak that gets into the ground, the cleanup is a huge pain in the arse. Like hauling hundreds of truck loads of dirt offsite for treatment and disposal big. Happens mostly at NG city gates or hubs occasionally.


You are definitely correct. When ships were loading up on propane and butane at Hackberry in the early 1980's for Central America, Caribbean and Venezuela, one took on some cylinders of odorant to be blended with gases at destination storage. We were told that one cylinder leaking would make a city of 50,000 unlivable due the smell, after they were pulled aboard with ropes and the ship's winch. Tanker docks are usually not much more than grated walkways and a small platform.

The terminal had little security, one Dutch ship crewman had met a married gal at a local dive bar and her husband came looking for her waving a pistol at the ship while it was loading propane. Carloads of Vietnamese hookers from Houston seemed to know when a ship was arriving and drive right up to it.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:25 pm to
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H2S has a very distinctive smell of rotten eggs.


Yep, it's methane that has no odor.

As to the post about natural gas odorants (mercaptans) - yeah - they are horrible stuff. I knew a guy who worked in a mercaptan plant. On the first day off work he stopped at a grocery store. They evacuated the store due to a gas leak. He just walked away.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
3327 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:32 pm to
Significant

Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2299 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:32 pm to
Insiginificant.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Insiginificant


Any land Russia takes is insignificant. Yes you’ve told us daily
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:20 pm to
If the Russian military was competent and had the available combat power, they would execute a pincher movement and cut off the salient that is forming around Zalizychne and Hulyarpole. The top half of the pincher would move due west towards Vozdvyzhivka then turn south while the bottom half would punch straight North thru Hulyaipilske.

This is the kind of situation the US Army would steamroll.

If the Russians try, it will take at least a year.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:50 pm to
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quote:
H2S has a very distictive smell of rotten eggs

Wrong,

H2S itself has no odor, the mercaptans give it the rotten egg smell. Anyone who has work in maintaining hydrotreating reactors in a refinery knows this as well.


Look, normally I would just let this go, but it's a safety issue. Yes, even on a sports blog. Too many horror stories out there. You can find H2S in a lot of places, so people need to know the characteristics.

quote:

Hydrogen sulfide has a characteristic rotten-egg odor; however, olfactory fatigue may occur and consequently it may not provide adequate warning of hazardous concentrations.
CDC

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0.01-1.5 Odor threshold (when rotten egg smell is first noticeable to some). Odor becomes more offensive at 3-5 ppm. Above 30 ppm, odor described as sweet or sickeningly sweet.
OSHA

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Odor: Rotten Eggs
MSDS

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Although very pungent at first (it smells like rotten eggs[62]), it quickly deadens the sense of smell, creating temporary anosmia,[63] so victims may be unaware of its presence until it is too late.
Wiki

Let's all stay informed, stay frosty, stay safe.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:59 pm to
Lawyers worldwide are rejoicing and looking at holiday real estate brouchures. For decades to come, payment for Russian energy supplies will go to the International Claims Commission first for further distribution to Ukraine.

Maybe we should start calling them 'formally Russian energy supplies'. The energy supplies will still be there but not Russia.

quote:

In The Hague today, 35+ countries and the EU signed a convention establishing an International Claims Commission to compensate Ukraine for war damage caused by Russia’s aggression. The body, backed by the Council of Europe and attended by President Zelensky and other leaders, will review claims from Ukraine’s existing Register of Damage, which has already collected tens of thousands of cases, and determine compensation amounts.

The commission is a key step in a broader international mechanism to hold Russia financially accountable and provide reparations to individuals, businesses and the state for losses suffered during the war. It must still be ratified by at least 25 parties and secure funding to begin work. The effort is meant to ensure justice and accountability as part of long-term peace and recovery.



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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2299 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:09 am to
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Any land Russia takes is insignificant. Yes you’ve told us daily


No, the land they take is absolutely significant.

They just don't take any land, as consistently reported by any actual objective news outlet, including the map shown above.

Do ya'll actually look at the maps before you post them?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:22 am to
More on the Slavyansk-on-Kuban refinery strike last night. Plus other treats.


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On the night of December 17, 2025, defense forces units used Deep Strike weapons to hit the infrastructure of the "Slavyansk" oil refinery in the city of Slavyansk-on-Kuban in the Krasnodar Krai of Russia! Explosions and a fire were recorded in the target area. The extent of the damage to the enterprise is being clarified.

As of 2025, the Slavyansk oil refinery processes crude oil and condensate with a capacity of about 5.2 million tons per year. It is involved in supplying the Russian occupying forces.

Also, a hit on the territory of the "Nikolaevskaya" oil base in the Rostov region (RF) has been confirmed. According to preliminary data, a tank and a river vessel "Captain Gibert" were damaged.

A field artillery warehouse of a unit from the 101st Separate Logistics Support Brigade of the occupiers was hit in the temporarily occupied territory of the Luhansk region. The damage is being clarified.

Based on the results of previous missions, it was established that on December 14, strike UAVs hit a drilling platform named after R. Greifer in the waters of the Caspian Sea. Damage to a stationary platform, on which an operational and technical module for the preparation and pumping of extracted gas is located, was confirmed, resulting in the shutdown of all 14 wells (the total production volume of which was almost 3,500 tons per day). - The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:29 am to
Wow. TACO losing control. A "Stop the [Trump Mafia] Steal" from from the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman, Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho. Not exactly a swing State.

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I applaud the EU’s decision to permanently immobilize over $200 billion in Russian sovereign assets frozen in the EU’s jurisdiction. This is a vital message to Putin that Russia will have to pay the price for its war against Ukraine. The EU should take the next step at the European Council meeting on Thursday and use these funds to fend off Russian aggression in its own backyard.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:39 am to
Meanwhile in Moscow, business continues as usual -


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