re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

US destroyer blocks way for Russian tanker to get to Venezuela

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JD Vance on Russia-Ukraine:

Why don't you stop killing each other and start trading with one another?

Why don't they actually engage in some commerce, travel between the two countries, engage in some sort of cultural exchange?

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Either Vance is a very good actor trying to be a convincing dumb arse...

... or he didn't attend any history classes in those colleges he went to...

What a historically ignorant statement.

Is Vance already trying to get Silicon Valley financial backing? See what happened to DeSantis when he did that? His campaign was cooked within 2 weeks.

You guys are a bunch of rinos, perpetual war and killing for profit. No peace accord will be good enough, so you put up unrealistic, no absolutely ridiculous proposals, so you can perpetuate this nonsense.

And rather than address things as they are, not what you would dream them to be, you insist on attacking everyone in the process.

If zelensky is removed from this process it is resolved post haste. The ukranian people would agree. Now someone will post his great approval rating. Which didnt poll the dead, nor the 20% who left the country. Only those that live in fear of being shipped to the front if they dont agree zelensky is a great guy. Some poll.

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If zelensky is removed from this process it is resolved post haste. The ukranian people would agree

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No they wouldn't.

Capitulation Plan reactions by the Verkhovna Rada parties.

Servant of the People’s Reaction

The Ukrainian parliament faction "Servant of the People" (Zelenskyy's party) has not given clear, united support for the US-brokered 28-point peace plan to end the war in Ukraine as of late November 2025. The plan, backed by President Trump, proposes major concessions—including ceding territory, restricting military size, and barring NATO troops from Ukraine—which have made it controversial within Kyiv and among Ukrainian lawmakers.

The plan was presented to Kyiv officials, including Rustem Umerov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, during talks in Miami.

US officials received “positive feedback” from Umerov, but no official endorsement from the Ukrainian government or parliament was confirmed.

The plan contains elements, like territorial concessions and military restrictions, seen as unacceptable by many in Ukraine.

Reports suggest internal dissatisfaction and potential opposition within the Servant of the People faction, with some MPs preparing to challenge President Zelenskyy if he moves to accept the plan.

Holos Party reaction

The Holos party in Ukraine does not support the US 28-point peace plan and has expressed significant criticism of its proposed terms and underlying rationale. Various Holos party members have stated that the plan fails to respect Ukraine's laws, ethics, and national interests, and they view the concessions within the document—such as territory cessions and limitations on sovereignty—as unacceptable and out of touch with the realities of the conflict.

Holos party lawmakers described the draft plan's approach to law and ethics as "very fuzzy," suggesting that its authors lack a clear understanding of Ukraine's legal and moral stance.

The party and its allies have broadly rejected any peace plan that forces Ukraine to cede territory or compromise its fundamental sovereignty, especially when these points echo Russian demands.

European Solidarity Party reaction

The European Solidarity party in Ukraine’s parliament (the Rada) has not supported the US-backed 28-point peace plan for the Russia-Ukraine war. In fact, recent sources indicate that European Solidarity blocked the parliamentary rostrum and protested against any peace proposal that would involve concessions such as ceding Ukrainian territory or making compromises with Russia.

European Solidarity, led by former President Petro Poroshenko, is a pro-Western, strongly pro-Ukrainian sovereignty party.

On November 17, the faction blocked the Rada’s rostrum, showing clear opposition to the Trump administration’s 28-point peace plan.

The party and its supporters consider any measure involving territorial concessions (such as recognition of Russian control over Crimea or parts of Donbas) as unacceptable for Ukraine’s sovereignty and integrity.

Rada Batkivshchyna reaction

Rada Batkivshchyna, one of Ukraine's key parliamentary parties, has so far not issued an official statement of full support or opposition to the US-backed 28-point peace plan for Ukraine and Russia. The plan, presented recently and involving significant territorial, military, and political concessions, has been widely discussed in Ukrainian media and politics, with reactions ranging from cautious consideration to outright skepticism among various Ukrainian leaders and legislators, including Batkivshchyna affiliates.

Batkivshchyna and other legislative factions have reportedly not taken an unequivocal public position as of November 22, 2025. Their stance is expected to be cautious, focusing on Ukraine's independence, democratic values, and territorial integrity, which the party has historically defended.

While the plan is under review and debate in the Rada, Batkivshchyna’s official position will likely become clearer after broader consultations with allies, government leadership, and civil society.

Early indications suggest that Batkivshchyna and other mainstream parties remain wary of proposals that involve territorial concessions and NATO exclusion, seeing them as major challenges to Ukraine’s long-term security and sovereignty.

In summary: Rada Batkivshchyna has not formally supported the US 28-point peace plan and remains reserved pending deeper parliamentary and public debate.

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Ivanka needs to bring Donald to the wood shed.

Caving to Putin is unbecoming and it makes him look bad.

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"Peace in our time." Peace at any price...

I hate it for Ukraine and I’ve been a supporter of them not because I think Ukraine is great but because what Putin did can’t be tolerated. Now though I’m just done with this war. We have sunk enough money and weapons into this war that is a stalemate and Ukraine isn’t even grateful for our support so just let Europe get off their arse and support the war.

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We have sunk enough money and weapons into this war that is a stalemate and Ukraine isn’t even grateful for our support so just let Europe get off their arse and support the war.

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But we aren't anymore. Under the Trump administration we no longer give what you would call 'aid.' We just sell them weapons, being paid for by the Europeans and the Russians. We're now making money off this war.

Which brings me to another point. There are those who believe that the Russians had the 'peace plan' written this way because they want the Ukrainians to say 'no,' and then the Trump administration threatens to stop selling arms to the Ukrainians, which would be a big win for the Russians.

If that's the case, and it's not a crazy theory, then it's going to be interesting when the weapons industry goes screaming to the White House, who I fully believe will then start shaking down the weapons industry.

But I honestly don't see how the Ukrainians come even close to saying yes to this atrocity.