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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:37 am to texag7
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:37 am to texag7
There are two possible valuations:
1) What is the resource value of the resources sitting in the ground
2) What is the resource value after extraction?
They have to extract the minerals to get any payback. Given the current state of the infrastructure, destroyed cities, depopulation of the areas, and general state of the Russian economy, it's going to be a heavy lift for them to get any kind of short-term payback from the minerals.
The most likely scenario is that they will sell the rights to mine them to China and take a portion of the extraction.
1) What is the resource value of the resources sitting in the ground
2) What is the resource value after extraction?
They have to extract the minerals to get any payback. Given the current state of the infrastructure, destroyed cities, depopulation of the areas, and general state of the Russian economy, it's going to be a heavy lift for them to get any kind of short-term payback from the minerals.
The most likely scenario is that they will sell the rights to mine them to China and take a portion of the extraction.
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:39 am to VolSquatch
It's safe to assume that all of this is known to me and everyone else on the board. The US didn't start sending satellite intel for deep strikes until a few months ago.
I don't think that any in the public sphere really knows how many Tomahawks the US has in storage. How many are at or near end of life for US purposes?
I have no doubt that many are over 2 decades, if not 3 decades old with older guidance systems from 1993
I don't think that any in the public sphere really knows how many Tomahawks the US has in storage. How many are at or near end of life for US purposes?
I have no doubt that many are over 2 decades, if not 3 decades old with older guidance systems from 1993
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:39 am to CitizenK
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It's safe to assume that all of this is known to me
How presumptuous
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:41 am to Chromdome35
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The most likely scenario is that they will sell the rights to mine them to China and take a portion of the extraction
This is a good call
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:47 am to AU86
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you idiot.
Now go melt in the corner.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:04 am to VolSquatch
[quote]quote:Is this what you call “perfection Well I didn't call it that so[/quote
One of the Putin apologist did.
In a few years Putin is going to rival Stalin in the scew ups.
One of the Putin apologist did.
In a few years Putin is going to rival Stalin in the scew ups.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:07 am to Chromdome35
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The most likely scenario is that they will sell the rights to mine them to China and take a portion of the extraction.
Didn’t we purchase some of the mineral rights from Ukraine?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:08 am to doubleb
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One of the Putin apologist did.
How is AU a Putin apologist? And how is that relevant to me?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:17 am to CitizenK
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The real threat is US satellite recon for targeting by Ukraine built drones and cruise missiles.
Did you get that from Ben Hodges and Times Radio?
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Putin wanted a meeting.
Sorta proves my point.
Meeting = No Tomahawks or Miss Lindsey sanctions while this all plays out.
It is evident that Trump doesn't exactly want to commit to either at this point. He may have to eventually but committing to Tomahawk is a whole other ballgame. See Germany and Taurus missiles- their inventory is a joke.
Can the US provide 2000 tomahawks? The US has a little over 4000 currently in inventory.
2000 missiles gone: The Navy's tomahawk missile nightmare
Same song and dance: Production capacity and replacement time. And that includes land launched Tomahawks.
The author is not exactly a Russian pundit. Just reality.
I don't blame Trump for trying but does anyone believe that Z or Putin will make any concessions to actually end this?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:53 am to VolSquatch
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How is AU a Putin apologist? And how is that relevant to me?
Russia has hit Ukraine for two years with hundreds of long range drones and 50-60 long range missiles on many nights. That is per night when it happens. And little old Ukraine still hasn't surrendered.
Even if Trump gave Ukraine 150 Tomahawks who thinks that will make Russia quit? Many of those would be possibly shot down.
How many Tomahawks would it take to make Putin say I quit?
Anyone who gives an alternative view to the delusion is a Putin apologist I guess.
I pray that Trump is successful in stopping this war but I don't see it happening yet. I hope that I am wrong.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:00 pm to AU86
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Anyone who gives an alternative view to the delusion is a Putin apologist I guess.
I asked for examples on what terms Trump gave Putin specifically, he gave none.
I bet he will have no examples of you being a Putin apologist either. Just like libs who call everyone they disagree with a Nazi, its just buzzwords with no meaning at this point.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:12 pm to cypher
Kyrylo Shevchenko
@KShevchenkoReal
CRASH! Russian Urals oil plunges below $50/barrel for the first time since spring 2025, hitting $47.4 in Primorsk—below the EU’s $47.6 price cap! Global Brent down 15% to $60 amid Israel-Hamas ceasefire easing Mideast tensions. Russia’s budget, banking on $58/barrel, faces a $150B+ revenue hit in 2025, slashing 21% of oil income already. Kremlin’s war machine is starving! #RussiaEconomy
@KShevchenkoReal
CRASH! Russian Urals oil plunges below $50/barrel for the first time since spring 2025, hitting $47.4 in Primorsk—below the EU’s $47.6 price cap! Global Brent down 15% to $60 amid Israel-Hamas ceasefire easing Mideast tensions. Russia’s budget, banking on $58/barrel, faces a $150B+ revenue hit in 2025, slashing 21% of oil income already. Kremlin’s war machine is starving! #RussiaEconomy
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:23 pm to VolSquatch
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How is AU a Putin apologist?
Because he takes up for Putin every chance he gets
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And how is that relevant to me?
You are acting as his wingman.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:31 pm to doubleb
How is stating reality (something that you are in denial of because of emotions) taking up for Putin?
You gonna call for me to get banned like everyone else that doesn't spew the company line?
You gonna call for me to get banned like everyone else that doesn't spew the company line?
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:36 pm to doubleb
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Because he takes up for Putin every chance he gets
Do you have some examples of him taking up for Putin?
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You are acting as his wingman.
Not really, I literally disagreed with him on something within the last page or two of this thread
So every time you get pissy because I say something to Citizen or whoever else and feel the need to jump in, you are therefore acting as their wingman right?
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:38 pm to CitizenK
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I don't think that any in the public sphere really knows how many Tomahawks the US has in storage. How many are at or near end of life for US purposes?
I have no doubt that many are over 2 decades, if not 3 decades old with older guidance systems from 1993
If I recall it right, the older Tomahawks all used terrain mapping for navigation which means they are immune to GPS spoofing.
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:47 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:49 pm to T1gerNate
Significant -
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/17/25 at 12:52 pm to T1gerNate
Significant. Note Siversk -
Posted on 10/17/25 at 1:12 pm to VolSquatch
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How is AU a Putin apologist?
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Putin has played this perfectly so far.
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Putin did it because he wanted to see "The Coalition of the Willing" piss their pants.
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Putin is playing Trump and making him look weak.
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I don't believe that for a minute that Russia wants all of Ukraine.
Putin wants what he calls Novorossiya.
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I don't think Putin will ever accept a cease fire because he is winning.
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Putin is going to ramp it up as much as he can now.
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Putin is going to stick the knife in and twist. Can't say I blame him.
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