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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:12 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:12 am to
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Nah, your photo doesn't show anyone unloading the truck. Or, loading the truck.



So you think they just left it that way?

No one put it there, no one is going to take it out. A real marvel of physics. What even is reality?

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From the photo it's not possible to positively identify if it's even a Walmart delivery truck since there is no link to it.

Maybe you can provide a link to the actual photo you posted?


There are literally walmart logos on some of the boxes

I googled "Walmart Truck being unloaded" and took the picture from the Walmart reddit page, posted 2 years ago.

LINK

In the article I posted they talked about how they were test running the new quick unload method in 30 stores back in I believe 2018. I'm sure that is likely the standard practice now. Its essentially just a smaller version of what any operation that hand unloads in warehouses does.

Looking at some of the comments those kind of loading jobs seem pretty common, but they do appear to be trying to move toward complete palletization by 2027/2028
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135140 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:28 am to
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So you think they just left it that way?
Who is they?
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There are literally walmart logos on some of the boxes
So, what? I order things from Walmart that are delivered to my house by the USPS or FedEx or sometimes by independent delivery companies. Nothing in your photo shows it's a Walmart truck. It may be a Walmart truck but that's not visible in your photo.

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I googled "Walmart Truck being unloaded" and took the picture from the Walmart reddit page, posted 2 years ago.
So, you're resorting to posting photos from a two year old anti-Walmart reddit page to prove your dislike of Walmart?

Well, THAT'S certainly credible.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8505 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:42 am to
Ah so your gripe isn't about their shipping methods (the main point, which I proved). It's because I said something bad about Walmart

I bet I could really tear you up if I said something bad about food stamps or Carnival cruises
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:19 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8505 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:32 am to
Either Putin is about to cave, or he is about to string Trump along again.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41503 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:35 am to
Putin will not give up the land they took from Ukraine. So either Ukraine concedes most of it or the war continues.

American or NATO boots on the ground is not an option. So the war will likely continue thru next year until Ukraine totally collapses or Russia runs out of supplies.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8505 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:42 am to
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Putin will not give up the land they took from Ukraine. So either Ukraine concedes most of it or the war continues.



I agree, but there are things Putin can give without giving up the land.

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American or NATO boots on the ground is not an option. So the war will likely continue thru next year until Ukraine totally collapses or Russia runs out of supplies.



There are a lot of folks in Europe who want American peacekeepers there after any kind of agreement is reached. Or at least some combination of Americans and other NATO forces.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42867 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:43 am to
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Either Putin is about to cave, or he is about to string Trump along again.


I’m guessing it’s door #2, Putin strings Trump along.

Now, will Trump play along? I don’t think so this time.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8505 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:46 am to
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Now, will Trump play along? I don’t think so this time.



Trump needs to get something immediately. He can't take the "give us a couple of weeks" bullcrap again.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2329 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:49 am to
Putin will probably say he will stop attacking Ukraine energy infrastructure if Trump agrees to not provide any further long range weapons to Ukraine. They will agree and for a few weeks everything will be fine and then it'll all start happening again.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42867 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:50 am to
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Trump needs to get something immediately. He can't take the "give us a couple of weeks" bullcrap again.


I agree.

Trump had bent over backwards to give Putin an out, but all Putin had done is snubbed Trump. Fresh over a huge deal in the ME, I do not believe Trump will listen to any excuses and not act.

I’m guess more economic pressure, and more aid including Tomahawks.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41503 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:53 am to
Tomahawks won’t change the war really at all. They sound good for a news snippet though. That’s about it
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16294 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:54 am to
Almost a week ago, a consistent Putin apologist, Dr. Doctorow, said that Putin was getting ready to retire and let someone else take over.

Every now and then I watch a few minutes of nutter Napolitano or bought and paid for for over a decade, Dr. Diesen, who both are in Moscow.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8505 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Tomahawks won’t change the war really at all. They sound good for a news snippet though. That’s about it



The drone campaign has done fairly significant damage to Russian infrastructure already. If Tomahawks are given it will open up new possibilities sure, but apparently it will be relatively few platforms if they are given at all.

Putin's willingness, or lack thereof, to negotiate in the coming weeks will tell us a lot about just how resilient he thinks the Russian economy can be with hampered oil production.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135140 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Ah so your gripe isn't about their shipping methods (the main point, which I proved). It's because I said something bad about Walmart
Nah, none of the above.

My "gripe" was about you deliberately obfuscating another one of your asinine posts.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3995 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:37 pm to
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As a person who enjoys history and particularly military history, I have an observation of this war that I believe helps explain Russia's poor showing on the battlefield.

A page ago, someone mentioned the move "Enemy at the Gates" about the battle for Stalingrad. The movie did a good job of demonstrating what a Russian "Meat Wave" attack really looks like. In WW2, Russia was able to overwhelm the Germans through sheer numbers. Russia has always relied on quantity vs quality. This is the perspective of Russia that I had at the beginning of this war. They would overwhelm Ukraine through sheer numbers.

That didn't happen.

There is an endless supply of video from this war. I have seen almost no evidence of Russia employing overwhelming attacks. When you see video of close combat, it's not 300 guys storming the trenches; it's usually a small number (10) of troops. Russia appears to have abandoned its traditional strategy of quantity vs. quality. And that is one of the reasons they are under performing, their military has no real history of success with small unit action which is the exact way they are fighting this war.

Thoughts?


You can't have a wave of thousands of troops if you can't transport, house and assemble that many troops without them being noticed and bombed with missiles and drones. Remember when a large number of Russian troops were moved into a hotel in the Donbas, and locals instantly relayed that info and they all got killed by a Himars strike?

News18: Over 200 Russian Soldiers Killed in Ukrainian Strike on Hotel Housing Troops in Melitopol

That miles long caravan of troops and vehicles headed for Kyiv that was picked off?

Has brute numbers worked anywhere as a strategy since WWII? Since the appearance of spy jets and satellites?

Soviet numbers couldn't defeat guerrilla fighters in Afghanistan in the 80s... those fighters did not have instantaneous satellite info and drones.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3995 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:53 pm to
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I notice that Bakmuth is on that map. After more than a year of heavy fighting Russia captured it all in September of 2023. I remember people here speculating about a big Russian breakthrough.

Look at Bakmuth and notice the battle lines haven’t moved a whole lot farther West, and that has been over two years since the capture.



I've mentioned a good friend of mine who served in the Marines in Afghanistan and went to Ukraine to train troops, then joined the Ukrainian army (not the foreign legion, he served in a Ukrainian unit).

He spent almost a year in Bakhmut, repelling meat waves... he says when the Russians "capture" a place like Bakhmut, they've just shelled it with artillery to the point where there is nowhere that offers any cover to Ukrainian troops anymore, so they have to pull back. Then the Russians send some poor bastards on suicide missions to put Russian flags on things for photos... but they can't move into the city... because they've reduced it to rubble and they have no place that gives them any cover and they're sitting ducks for the Ukrainians...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42867 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Tomahawks won’t change the war really at all. They sound good for a news snippet though. That’s about it


I said more aid and Tomahawks which will certainly help.

They will also be a real indication that Trump is tired of being the stooge.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27106 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:54 pm to
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I am speaking to President Putin now. The conversation is ongoing, a lengthy one,


There is only one language that the old KGB goon understands and it not a bunch of words.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3995 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:58 pm to
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which will be bankrolled by fresh tariffs on China.


So, bankrolled by the American consumer ultimately


yep.
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