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Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 10:53 pm to
Ukraine got the 1980's version optics at that which are still superior to what Russia has
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:02 pm to
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Russia sent their military trainers to the front lines early in the invasion, when things started to go south for them. There was discussion on this board about what a long term bad idea that was. Russia has done a LOT of things that are long term bad ideas. If they were facing a peer opponent they would have lost by now, and not even close. They still have learned nothing from our Vietnam or their Afghanistan (ours too, and the Brits - we didn't learn either).


Also senior field officers to lead from the front then they became KIA. The officers couldn't understand how the Ukrainians were stopping advances.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:24 pm to
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Ukraine got the 1980's version optics at that which are still superior to what Russia has


They love the Bradley. Even if it is knocked out, most still live. They need lots more and will probably them since we have thousands not in service.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 11:58 pm to
Ryazan oil refinery output halved after Ukrainian drone attack

August 4, 2025, 05:09 PM

The Ryazan Refinery, operated by Russia’s state-owned oil giant Rosneft, had to cut its throughput capacity by half after being damaged in a recent Ukrainian drone attack, Reuters reported on Aug. 4, citing sources.

According to the sources, two primary processing units—CDU-3 (capable of cracking 8,600 tons of crude per day) and CDU-4 (11,400 tons per day)—were shut down on Aug. 2. The refinery now operates only CDU-6, which accounts for roughly 48 percent of its total capacity.

Last year, the refinery processed 13.1 million tons of crude oil, producing 2.3 million tons of gasoline, 3.4 million tons of diesel fuel, 4.2 million tons of fuel oil, and 1 million tons of aviation fuel.

New Voice of Ukraine
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:27 am to
a few days old but I don't remember it being mentioned here

Ukraine captures strategic island in the Black Sea after eliminating the entire Russian garrison in a daring nighttime raid — Ukraine's intelligence.

The special forces assault on Tendrivska Spit destroyed sophisticated Russian electronic warfare equipment—including a "Zont" jamming complex and "Rosa" radar station—without suffering a single Ukrainian casualty.

Tendrivska Spit sits in contested waters where both sides have been trading blows for months.

The 65-kilometer island had served as a key surveillance and jamming hub for Russian forces in the northern Black Sea.

Now the Ukrainian flag flies over the island.


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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:46 am to
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you must not have been paying attention.


Whatever else people here may say about me, that is one thing that has never been said.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4647 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:54 am to
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According to the sources, two primary processing units—CDU-3 (capable of cracking 8,600 tons of crude per day) and CDU-4 (11,400 tons per day)—were shut down on Aug. 2. The refinery now operates only CDU-6, which accounts for roughly 48 percent of its total capacity .


"The refinery now operates only CDU-6, which accounts for roughly 48 percent of its total capacity."



CDU-6 -




Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:26 am to
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Farmers in Belarus accused of deliberately hiding potatoes

According to a statement from the Ministry of Antimonopoly Regulation and Trade of the Republic of Belarus (MART), a number of farms either did not deliver the required volumes of potatoes to certain retail chains, which led to a shortage, or supplied the retail with unsellable products.

For example, it is claimed that the Pakusha I.A. peasant farm (Minsk region) released only 7.8% of the planned volume instead of fulfilling the orders of "Hippo" and "Belmarket." Based on MART's inspection results, informational letters were sent to regional executive committees for response measures.

Well, this takes us back about 90 years... Just use the same playbook Vlad - send in the NKVD and army and shoot about 600,000 kulaks, deport another two million to Siberia and starve to death the remaining million to million and a half. That'll definitely take everyone's mind off the real source of the crop shortage.


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A [1931] parade under the banners "We will liquidate the kulaks as a class" and "All to the struggle against the wreckers of agriculture"


So yeah, in Russia, Belarus or Ukraine, this is not a joke. Déjà vu.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:26 am to
It is easy to assume that CDU 6 is the most recent addition to throughput capacity. It was added around 25 years ago. The expansion and modernization was funded from money loaned by the US, just like the US funded crude oil production revitalization in the 1990s
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:27 am to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:30 am to
Hey Cope.

How is India not buying Russian oil going? What about China?

About like those Taurus missiles?

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5747 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:40 am to
Russia’s Gasoline Prices Surge to Record High on Refinery Attacks

By Charles Kennedy - Aug 04, 2025, 9:09 PM CDT

Gasoline prices in Russia hit a record high after Ukrainian drone strikes damaged key refineries, cutting crude processing by 40,000 tons per day
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A Kremlin-imposed gasoline export ban has failed to stabilize the market amid peak seasonal demand and low domestic stockpiles.

Analysts warn the supply crunch could last into 2026, with prices likely to remain elevated through at least October.

Russia’s domestic gasoline market is under mounting pressure, with prices hitting a new record high despite an emergency export ban aimed at stabilizing supply. The price of Ai-95 gasoline surged past 77,000 rubles ($946.6) per ton on the St. Petersburg International Mercantile Exchange (SPIMEX) on August 4.

The latest spike follows Ukrainian drone strikes on August 2 that damaged multiple oil refineries across Russia, cutting processing capacity by around 40,000 tons of crude per day. Facilities in Ryazan, Penza, Samara, and Voronezh Oblasts were targeted, with the Ryazan refinery sustaining notable damage. Repairs could take anywhere from one to six months, industry sources say.

Moscow imposed a sweeping ban on gasoline exports on July 28, set to last until the end of August, in an effort to prevent fuel shortages and curb price increases. The Kremlin has used similar temporary restrictions multiple times in the past two years to safeguard domestic supply.

Despite the export ban, traders were warning just days before the record-breaking spike that the ban may not prevent shortages. Export volumes are far smaller than domestic consumption, meaning that redirecting them to the local market will have a limited impact.

Market participants expect state regulators to pressure oil companies to sell more domestically and delay planned maintenance. But even so, low domestic stocks, peak seasonal demand, and ongoing refinery repairs are straining the market.

The shortage concerns go beyond disrupted supply chains. According to industry sources, private retail networks have not built up sufficient fuel reserves this summer. A spike in interest rates to 20% made borrowing to stockpile gasoline prohibitively expensive, leaving traders without the buffer needed to weather sudden supply shocks.

OilPrice
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:41 am to
Once again, we would think a member of the MIC would do very well during war time. But we would be wrong.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:47 am to
Wrong but not surprising...

This is the Russian Treasury which is topped up every month from the National Wealth Fund, which is the monetary fund of last recourse in Russia. Starting point of Treasury is lower and lower each month.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:57 am to
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With elections coming up, the next few months are crucial for Moldova's EU ascension aspirations.
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Another Moscovite puppet falls—Gutul’s sentence proves even Moldova’s courts see through Putin’s proxies. Seven years is light for treason, but it’s a start.


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Why Transnistria Still Matters to Russia: Strategic Depth, Leverage and Regional Instability

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8441 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:58 am to
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the Europeans know they're next if the Ukrainians lose


They have been told that. 'Knowing' that would mean that statement is accurate, and there is no evidence that it is.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 7:58 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8441 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:01 am to
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If they were facing a peer opponent they would have lost by now


I think this is insulting to the Ukrainians, TBH.

They aren't just a peer opponent, they are an outright better force than the Russians are. Drones have been able to bridge the personnel gap for now. I don't believe that will remain the case, but for now it is.

Its insulting to the west as well. We have given Ukraine a clear and decisive arms advantage, and spent billions doing it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42775 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:03 am to
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They have been told that. 'Knowing' that would mean that statement is accurate, and there is no evidence that it is.


I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.

Whether or not Russia plans to invade is not relevant, those countries have to be ready to defend themselves.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8441 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:06 am to
Why is it that partisans/foreign assets like LordBebo, his fellow Russia lovers, and any number of the "slava Ukraini" crowd as well are always huge fricking weirdos?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8441 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:12 am to
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I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.



Well I believe that the citizens believe its real. Their leaders have been telling them that for years. I don't believe the leaders actually think that, or they would have been spending more on their own defense before 2022. We have known who Russia is long before 2022.

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Whether or not Russia plans to invade is not relevant, those countries have to be ready to defend themselves.



Spending extraneous billions of dollars on defense to stop an opponent that never intends to attack you is very relevant. Defense is expensive. Many of these countries don't have extravagant governmental budgets like the US does.

Even in the US we are literally seeing with our own eyes domestic infrastructure withering away while we spend ungodly amounts on defense, when there isn't a nation on Earth even capable of invading us due to geography. China is the only one who logistically could pull it off based on their navy, and if they tried all that would happen is there would be a bunch of extra man-made reefs in the bottom of the Pacific with Chinese flags on them.
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