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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:40 am to cypher
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:40 am to cypher
Railway hit in Kharkiv Oblast as Russian attacks kill 10, injure 17 in Ukraine over past day
August 5, 2025 11:32 am
Editor's note: The story was updated with the latest casualty figures in Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian attacks against Ukraine killed at least 10 civilians and injured at least 17 others over the past day, regional authorities reported on Aug. 5.
Russian forces launched an Iskander-M ballistic missile from Russia's Bryansk Oblast and 46 Shahed-type drones and decoy drones from Kursk, Bryansk, Orel, and Primorsk-Akhtarsk against Ukraine overnight, according to Ukraine's Air Force.
Ukraine's air defense and electronic warfare intercepted 29 drones, while the Iskander missile and another 17 drones reached their target. Drone and missile debris fell at three locations in southern and northeastern Ukraine.
"Last night, the Russians launched a ballistic missile and nearly 50 UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) against Ukraine, most of them Russian-Iranian 'Shaheds.' Many drones were shot down by our defenders, but unfortunately, there were hits," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
Russian forces struck six settlements in Kharkiv Oblast, with the town of Lozova suffering the heaviest damage and casualties, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
Between 2:45 and 4:40 a.m., the town was targeted by 34 drones, resulting in two deaths and five injuries. Five other people, including a 14-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl, suffered shock.
Among the injured were four railway workers, who were hospitalized with minor to moderate injuries. The fatalities included a mechanic on duty.
The Russian attack damaged railway infrastructure and started fires at the station and on the roofs of the depot buildings.
Later, Syniehubov reported that the Russian strike had also damaged an energy facility, though he did not provide further details.
Rescue teams are continuing to clear debris and search for possible victims beneath the rubble, Syniehubov added.
Train service is expected to resume once emergency operations are completed.
Lozova Mayor Serhii Zelensky called it the heaviest attack against the town during the entire full-scale war.
Over the past day, Russian attacks also killed a man and a woman, both aged 49, in the village of Lyman, located in the Vovchansk community of Kharkiv Oblast.
In Zaporizhzhia Oblast, Russian strikes killed four people in the village of Stepnohirsk and the town of Huliaipole and injured another two in the Zaporizhzhia district. Russian forces launched 431 strikes across 16 localities in the region in the past day, according to the local military administration.
In Kherson Oblast, Russia targeted 37 settlements, including the regional center of Kherson, over the past day. As a result of the attacks, two people were killed and another seven were injured, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin reported.
In Donetsk Oblast, three people were injured in the towns of Kostiantynivka and Dobropillia, as well as in the village of Illinivka, Governor Vadym Filashkin reported.
The Kyiv Independent
August 5, 2025 11:32 am
Editor's note: The story was updated with the latest casualty figures in Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian attacks against Ukraine killed at least 10 civilians and injured at least 17 others over the past day, regional authorities reported on Aug. 5.
Russian forces launched an Iskander-M ballistic missile from Russia's Bryansk Oblast and 46 Shahed-type drones and decoy drones from Kursk, Bryansk, Orel, and Primorsk-Akhtarsk against Ukraine overnight, according to Ukraine's Air Force.
Ukraine's air defense and electronic warfare intercepted 29 drones, while the Iskander missile and another 17 drones reached their target. Drone and missile debris fell at three locations in southern and northeastern Ukraine.
"Last night, the Russians launched a ballistic missile and nearly 50 UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) against Ukraine, most of them Russian-Iranian 'Shaheds.' Many drones were shot down by our defenders, but unfortunately, there were hits," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
Russian forces struck six settlements in Kharkiv Oblast, with the town of Lozova suffering the heaviest damage and casualties, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
Between 2:45 and 4:40 a.m., the town was targeted by 34 drones, resulting in two deaths and five injuries. Five other people, including a 14-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl, suffered shock.
Among the injured were four railway workers, who were hospitalized with minor to moderate injuries. The fatalities included a mechanic on duty.
The Russian attack damaged railway infrastructure and started fires at the station and on the roofs of the depot buildings.
Later, Syniehubov reported that the Russian strike had also damaged an energy facility, though he did not provide further details.
Rescue teams are continuing to clear debris and search for possible victims beneath the rubble, Syniehubov added.
Train service is expected to resume once emergency operations are completed.
Lozova Mayor Serhii Zelensky called it the heaviest attack against the town during the entire full-scale war.
Over the past day, Russian attacks also killed a man and a woman, both aged 49, in the village of Lyman, located in the Vovchansk community of Kharkiv Oblast.
In Zaporizhzhia Oblast, Russian strikes killed four people in the village of Stepnohirsk and the town of Huliaipole and injured another two in the Zaporizhzhia district. Russian forces launched 431 strikes across 16 localities in the region in the past day, according to the local military administration.
In Kherson Oblast, Russia targeted 37 settlements, including the regional center of Kherson, over the past day. As a result of the attacks, two people were killed and another seven were injured, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin reported.
In Donetsk Oblast, three people were injured in the towns of Kostiantynivka and Dobropillia, as well as in the village of Illinivka, Governor Vadym Filashkin reported.
The Kyiv Independent
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:58 am to VolSquatch
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Their leaders have been telling them that for years. I don't believe the leaders actually think that, or they would have been spending more on their own defense before 2022.
100% truth. If they truly believed that why did we see the massive cuts to military spending that they made? GB went from.6% GDP spending to what they are today. A total joke. If they viewed Russia as a threat why did they go totally dependent on Russian energy?
If they really believe that why haven't they made extraordinary efforts to up production over the last three years? Starting to build new production facilities or increase existing production lines? You would think that by boosting military buildup that would start up their dead economies. But they aren't willing to cut certain spending programs to shift their budgets into defense spending. The politicians know that if they make the cuts to benefits that the people will riot in the streets.
They are crying wolf because they need Russia to be an ever existing boogie man to keep the US in Europe. If they can keep the status quo they can continue spending their money on social welfare. That is their hope. These "allies" have became vassal states of the US.
I would be willing to bet that only about 1/3 of them will meet the 5% goal and some of them that claim to have done so will cook their books to do it. They are trying to placate Trump while he is still around and as soon as he is gone they hope to go back to business as usual.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:15 am to cypher
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Train service is expected to resume once emergency operations are completed.
Some of the pictures I've seen posted in here of the 'damage' to Russian railyards isn't any worse that typical stuff NS or CSX repair when they have a gap between incomings and outbounds. If you can consistently interrupt train schedules every day for months it will have an impact.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:53 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:05 am to cypher
'His economy stinks,' — falling oil prices could force Putin to end war, Trump says
August 5, 2025 5:16 pm
Falling oil prices could compel Russian President Vladimir Putin to end the war in Ukraine, U.S. President Donald Trump suggested in an interview with CNBC aired on Aug. 5.
Russia's energy exports remain the key source of income for its wartime economy and continue to finance its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Trump's remarks come amid renewed U.S. pressure on Moscow to agree to a ceasefire.
"Look, energy is down to $2.20 a gallon now for a car. It's down to a level, I guess, around $65 a barrel, but it's going down," Trump said in the interview. "Putin will stop killing people if you get (the price of) energy down another $10 a barrel. He's going to have no choice, because his economy stinks."
"OPEC and OPEC+ are drilling more. They want to drill more because, I think, they want me happy, because if energy goes down low enough, Putin is going to stop killing people," Trump claimed.
OPEC+ reportedly approved in May a 411,000-barrel-per-day increase in oil production for July — the third consecutive monthly hike — pushing crude prices to a four-year low. Bloomberg reported that Russia opposed the move but was overruled by key producers like Saudi Arabia.
The Kyiv Independent
August 5, 2025 5:16 pm
Falling oil prices could compel Russian President Vladimir Putin to end the war in Ukraine, U.S. President Donald Trump suggested in an interview with CNBC aired on Aug. 5.
Russia's energy exports remain the key source of income for its wartime economy and continue to finance its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Trump's remarks come amid renewed U.S. pressure on Moscow to agree to a ceasefire.
"Look, energy is down to $2.20 a gallon now for a car. It's down to a level, I guess, around $65 a barrel, but it's going down," Trump said in the interview. "Putin will stop killing people if you get (the price of) energy down another $10 a barrel. He's going to have no choice, because his economy stinks."
"OPEC and OPEC+ are drilling more. They want to drill more because, I think, they want me happy, because if energy goes down low enough, Putin is going to stop killing people," Trump claimed.
OPEC+ reportedly approved in May a 411,000-barrel-per-day increase in oil production for July — the third consecutive monthly hike — pushing crude prices to a four-year low. Bloomberg reported that Russia opposed the move but was overruled by key producers like Saudi Arabia.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:19 am to Leopold
I can't imagine Russia's plan anymore is to try and take Kiev. Of course like I've said before they have proven they aren't the brightest people so who knows. Also the narrative that Russia will role into Europe if they take Ukraine is ridiculous. This war has proven that the conventional Russian military is a joke. Even if they tried to go into Europe, Poland by itself would probably wreck them. The whole rolling up the flank thing isn't something I said would happen but just a possibility if Ukraine doesn't change the way it does some things at the front.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:31 am to VolSquatch
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Well I believe that the citizens believe its real. Their leaders have been telling them that for years. I don't believe the leaders actually think that, or they would have been spending more on their own defense before 2022. We have known who Russia is long before 2022.
Are you serious? Those referenced states are the ones who have been spending the most regardless of what goes on in the alliance. That isn't a valid criticism to levy at the referenced countries in particular.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:52 am to crazy4lsu
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Are you serious? Those referenced states are the ones who have been spending the most regardless of what goes on in the alliance. That isn't a valid criticism to levy at the referenced countries in particular.
On the low end, all of those states mentioned are spending 30-40% more on defense than they did before 2022. Some of them are spending over 100% more (Poland and Lithuania).
The point I originally responded to was about Europe as a whole, and it certainly applies more to Europe more broadly than the listed countries specifically, but they haven't been walking the walk either.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:02 am to VolSquatch
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The point I originally responded to was about Europe as a whole
What? Doubleb literally wrote out the countries he was referencing.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:08 am to crazy4lsu
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What? Doubleb literally wrote out the countries he was referencing.
And you literally just ignored the stats I put for the countries he referenced
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:08 am to VolSquatch
quote]The point I originally responded to was about Europe as a whole,[/quote]
Here is what you responded to:
quote] I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.[/quote]
Here is what you responded to:
quote] I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.[/quote]
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:12 am to doubleb
Wrong.
Is what I responded to originally
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the Europeans know they're next if the Ukrainians lose
Is what I responded to originally
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:13 am to VolSquatch
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And you literally just ignored the stats I put for the countries he referenced
To be clear, you are agreeing that he was referencing specific countries, and not Europe as a whole? I can address the rest of your post as soon as I get some clarity on what exactly you think doubleb was referencing, which clearly wasn't the whole of Europe.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:14 am to VolSquatch
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I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.
Well I believe that the citizens believe its real. Their leaders have been telling them that for years. I don't believe the leaders actually think that, or they would have been spending more on their own defense before 2022. We have known who Russia is long before 2022.
This is the portion of your quote at issue. I responded to this portion and no other aspect. Read the posts again.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:16 am to crazy4lsu
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I can address the rest of your post as soon as I get some clarity on what exactly you think doubleb was referencing, which clearly wasn't the whole of Europe.
You can't just directly respond to statistics that contradict your point?
Thats kind of chickenshit, but whatever. In this conversational sequence as a whole, I originally responded to a point about all of Europe being threatened. DoubleB decided to respond about those countries specifically. Those countries are in Europe, so they were included even in my original statement, which I then backed up with data when you refuted my point.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:17 am to crazy4lsu
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This is the portion of your quote at issue. I responded to this portion and no other aspect. Read the posts again.
And I responded directly to your issue. Can you try to address my response, or do you want to keep playing games?
I think I pretty clearly clarified that I think all of Europe is guilty of this. Is every country as guilty as every other country? I would say no.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:19 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:23 am to VolSquatch
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Is what I responded to originally
You replied to me and I didn’t post that slick ; someone else did.
That started the contusion.
Just say DoubleB was right and move on.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:28 am to doubleb
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You replied to me and I didn’t post that slick ; someone else did.
That started the contusion.
Just say DoubleB was right and move on.
Actually You replied to me originally, after I replied to Leopold.
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:58 am to Leopold
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the Europeans know they're next if the Ukrainians lose
They have been told that. 'Knowing' that would mean that statement is accurate, and there is no evidence that it is.
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:03 am to VolSquatch
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They have been told that. 'Knowing' that would mean that statement is accurate, and there is no evidence that it is.
I believe Sweden, Finland, the Baltic Ststes, and Poland all believe the threat is real judging by their reactions to Russia in Ukraine.
Whether or not Russia plans to invade is not relevant, those countries have to be ready to defend themselves.
And I gave actual figures showing you were not right, not just vibes and throwing shite at the wall. Why don't you make up some quotes again to back up your point?
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:32 am to VolSquatch
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And I gave actual figures showing you were not right, not just vibes and throwing shite at the wall. Why don't you make up some quotes again to back up your point?
Your figures backed me up. Those countries increased their defense spending after Feb of 22.
I feel better now that you backed me up.
Posted on 8/5/25 at 11:35 am to doubleb
If they thought Russia were a legit threat, they would have started spending before 2022. Not only after Trump and a bunch of Eurocrats told them to
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