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re: LA conservative legislature fixes another major problem in state

Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69341 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:01 pm to
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Article says it’s a 20 min required break.



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Louisiana Laws - Louisiana State Legislature. No minor shall be employed, permitted, or suffered to work for any five-hour period without one interval of at least thirty minutes within such period for meals.



I know they have systems that correct this, but then again thats a huge cost to a small business so we are making it harder and harder for small businesses.

Your huge corporate franchise prob has the new and cool POS systems, but your mom and pop might not.



This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22141 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:02 pm to
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We're repealing a child labor protection that requires that minors be provided a 30 minute break if they are scheduled to work a five hour period. There's no way to "spin" this.


You're repealing a law that micro-manages the agreement between employer and employee. That's a good thing that doesn't need spinning.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37288 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:09 pm to
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That means you are physically at work and not being paid for all those hours over an entire year.


But you are not working!

Maybe you go sit in the lunch room. Maybe you go sit in your car. Maybe you call your girlfriend. Maybe you walk next door to get a burger.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37288 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:11 pm to
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I support the bill.


Of course. You willingly swallow anything coming out of Landry and his enablers.

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You are forced by law to take the break whether you need it or not. It’s dumb.


This board constantly talks about how this geveration is the most lazy in history. You think they want to skip breaks??
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101951 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:15 pm to
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I support the bill.


Of course. You willingly swallow anything coming out of Landry and his enablers.

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You are forced by law to take the break whether you need it or not. It’s dumb.


This board constantly talks about how this geveration is the most lazy in history. You think they want to skip breaks??


Thinking you are mocking someone as somehow being faux "conservative" for taking a stance that maybe we don't need to actually legislate bullshite like this.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37288 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:18 pm to
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know they have systems that correct this, but then again thats a huge cost to a small business so we are making it harder and harder for small businesses. Your huge corporate franchise prob has the new and cool POS systems, but your mom and pop might not.


It’s a basic feature in any time tracking software.

I guess if the mom and pop is keeping time records in a notebook,‘then it would be a concern.

I’ve worked with a lot of small businesses. Almost all of them use software or a system of some sort. The ones that use a notebook tend to have payroll issues and tend to not attract teen workers.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37288 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:29 pm to
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You're repealing a law that micro-manages the agreement between employer and employee. That's a good thing that doesn't need spinning.


So we need to protect 16 year olds from a teacher using their preferred nickname, but not from their employer?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2568 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:38 pm to
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This board constantly talks about how this geveration is the most lazy in history. You think they want to skip breaks??


The ones who actually get a job at that age aren’t part of the problem.

You obviously never worked in the service industry at that age. You get to work and 2.5 hours later you’re forced to take a break. It’s absurd and not needed.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20749 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:00 pm to
Want to know how to give labor unions a foothold in your state? Repeal child labor laws and force children to work 8 hour shifts with no breaks.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28610 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:39 pm to
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House Bill 156 passed the upper chamber on a 26-11 vote

It went through a chamber, it didn't even go to a full house vote yet. Nothing about this bill has passed
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
659 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:43 pm to
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It went through a chamber, it didn't even go to a full house vote yet. Nothing about this bill has passed


Wrong.

The bill originated in the House. The vote total you're viewing is the vote total from the Senate (which has 39 seats). Bills that originate in the House and receive a Senate vote have already been passed in the House.

Only 37 of the 39 Senators in the Louisiana Senate voted on this bill.

This means that the next step is back to the House (for the full House to concur in the amendments to the bill adopted in the Senate), for the Speaker to sign it, and then to the governor's desk.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7739 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:55 pm to


You know what grinds my gears are places that expect you to be at work 10 or 15 minutes before your shift starts and you can’t clock in until 8 am. Then when everyone in management is racing to leave at 5 pm. You are stuck there finishing your work because they need it quick and they have no concept of time when they ask for something and give you no time to prepare or continue saddle you with your other responsibilities.


On the flip side Walmart got in trouble a few years ago when most stores closed at 9 pm. They would lock the front doors and while management might be busy balancing the tills or tending to the overnight crew, they would forget to let the employees that were scheduled to get off or clock out at 9 pm. Some employees that even waited to punch when they officially left the store were penalized by the managers going back and pencil whipping the clock to reflect the 9 pm end of shift.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50525 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:14 pm to
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So we need to protect 16 year olds from a teacher using their preferred nickname,


Don’t forget about legislating protection from library books.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
3243 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Don’t forget about legislating protection from library books.


What about legislation from unwashed decks or 'cock'pit areas.

We should have legislation to keep our fleet clean, yes?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22141 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:40 pm to
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So we need to protect 16 year olds from a teacher using their preferred nickname, but not from their employer?


Is the teacher paid by the state? That's a pretty big factor when talking about state interference. For a conservative, I mean. I don't know if that describes you or not.

To my knowledge Florida doesn't have a similar law, or didn't 40 years ago. I managed to not only survive, I don't remember breaks ever being a point of contention. I worked fast food and construction through HS and college and it just wan't an issue, let alone one that needed the attention of the state legislature.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
3243 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:51 pm to
If I stole your spot to a fore'deck'cubbies rebuttal, I apologize.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28610 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:57 pm to
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This means that the next step is back to the House

Which means the House hasn't fully voted it through yet lol. Idiot
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6800 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:55 pm to
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You obviously never worked in the service industry at that age. You get to work and 2.5 hours later you’re forced to take a break. It’s absurd and not needed.


When I was working as a teen, the only reason I got a break was because of the law. Not everyone has the same experience. If all business owners did the right thing, we wouldn't need laws like this.

This law is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. The focus should be on the blatant corruption that too many are ignoring. If the law was going to save everyone thousands of dollars a year in taxes, then sure, I can overlook the fact that the legislator is only doing it for his own benefit. But a law that takes away a 30 minute break from teenagers? You really want to overlook an elected official using his position to enrich himself for that? We need to hold our leaders more accountable and ourselves to a higher standard if that is all the return we are getting.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2568 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 11:10 pm to
You do realize that if the workers aren’t forced take an unpaid break, and they keeping working, the store owner would have to also pay them more?

All this bill would do is get rid of a needless regulation and make it more attractive for employers to hire younger workers.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48127 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 11:17 pm to
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so a 15 year old is getting in his car and leaving work or is he stuck on the premises because his fricking mom dropped him off?


Can they not walk?

Or for that matter use Uber Eats?
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 8:25 am
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