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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Day 4 (made the thread title more accurate)

Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70905 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:21 pm to
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The DA in North Carolina who pushed the Duke rape case had his immunity pierced because of how he handled matters.

No, the DA in the Duke case was disbarred because of things he did on that case. The entity that paid those kids was Duke University. I don't think the lawsuit against Nifong ever went anywhere
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 3:25 pm
Posted by LockeNLoad
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Member since Oct 2021
235 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:25 pm to
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The lacrosse players didn't file suit against the state, the DA's office, or Nifong.
You are mistaken.

He was sued in federal court, and the claims against him survived dismissal based upon immunity. He was eventually dismissed from the case because he had filed bankruptcy. LINK

Yes, he was disbarred. Yes, Duke was also sued.

Locke
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:32 pm to
Here's a pretty solid fox article describing the judges press take to the jurors. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Essentially...you'll learn/hear stuff now that the press hasn't had access too, so don't let what you hear/read from the press steer you.

FoxNews
Posted by Vood
Member since Dec 2007
8514 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:37 pm to
Nifong went after the wrong set of boys. The amount of money and influence those kids families had was amazing.

He and Duke deserved everything negative that happened to them for that.
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2109 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:40 pm to
Rittenhouse is an American Hero!!! End of story.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:51 pm to
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Is this video supposed to be good for the prosecution? It shows how calm he is, talking about running out to provide medical help, and that he just has a gun to protect himself.


The purpose of the video in question, was to connect Kyle to the militia. Militia is mentioned in the video numerous times.

Judge didn't like that.

The prosecution cut the narration, but did not cut the raw audio and closed caption, thus defeating the purpose of cutting the narration.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72583 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:56 pm to
SIAP- if judge dismisses the case, does Kyle still get double jeopardy protection?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22667 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:01 pm to
I don't know if it's just because the ADA is seemingly so inept or if he's really this good but this defense attorney is good. He has been able to get a lot more information out of this witness than the State and it's their witness.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103073 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:02 pm to
If it is a mistrial, he wouldn’t be under double jeopardy. I doubt the DA chooses to retry the case though since they did such a piss poor job this time around.

If it is something like a directed verdict and he is declared not guilty, it would be double jeopardy.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12169 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:02 pm to
I imagine that would come into play if a verdict was reached
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88362 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:04 pm to
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cop shot and injured (but didnt kill) a knife wielding man while he was violating a court order to stay away from his ex who called the police to the scene because the man broke into her house, violently raped her, and attempted to make off with her kids in a vehicle.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 5:55 pm to
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Zero chance of success
So what is it called when the prosecution and its detectives/police show overwhelming bias and discrimination in their handling?

They effectively ignore someone else who fired a gun.

They cut up video to frame context in their favor, specifically to try and make it appear there wasn't someone shooting at Kyle, and then later to avoid showing another person who had pulled a gun.

They tried to introduce video with some random person’s biased narration to purposely prejudice the jury.

The FBI/prosecution failed to turn over arial video evidence in discovery until forced to.

Detectives on the case admitted to treating Kyle’s investigation as priority while ignoring/avoiding leads and interviews that might have helped Kyle’s case.


I mean it’s absurdly obvious they are going after Kyle for political reasons, too. Anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty in them knows this. Knows this is a targeted hit job and being treated with tribal bias, animosity, prejudice, and zeal.

You’re telling me when he’s acquitted he has no civil case for restitution against a political hit job?

bullshite.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25775 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:03 pm to
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LockeNLoad


Who the fook are you, whose alter are you? And stop signing your posts, you moran. Everyone can read your screen name.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44116 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Who the fook are you, whose alter are you?


It's Hank.

Posted by LockeNLoad
Omnipresent
Member since Oct 2021
235 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:05 pm to
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You’re telling me when he’s acquitted he has no civil case for restitution against a political hit job?
I am saying that he has no tort claim for malicious prosecution.

Maybe a hypothetical lawyer on a contingent fee can craft some other clever theory or argument … but I doubt it.

Take this thread, for example. Lots of downvotes, but no substantive refutation of the premise, no contrary authority and no alternate theory of recovery.

“But it FEELS like he SHOULD get a check!!!!”

Locke
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14657 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:05 pm to
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This case does not give rise to even a good faith argument that there was no probable cause for the primary charges.


horseshite. No reasonable person can say that Rittenhouse was doing anything but defending his life. How does defending your life against armed attackers provide probable cause for any charges whatsoever?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106737 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:15 pm to
You clearly like to Locke your jaw onto any Load a man throws your way.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154072 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:18 pm to
Good night, Hank
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:35 pm to
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LockeNLoad


Regardless of screen name, Hank is spitting truths that the mouth breathers do not want to hear. They, in respond call him names and attack him. Typical.

There is no basis for malicious prosecution.
Posted by Nikki_T
Newport Beach
Member since Feb 2021
661 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:45 pm to
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Toobin masturbated on a zoom call.


quote:

Never forget.


Trust me, anyone who saw him masturbate on that zoom call will never ever forget it. Wish I could and as hard as I try, I can't unsee it.
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