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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:05 pm to TigersSEC2010
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:05 pm to TigersSEC2010
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It’s Wisconsin. There was a zero percent chance Kyle didn’t get stuck with at least a couple liberals hellbent on sticking to their narrative regardless of facts.
If that is the case then this will be mistrialed until the end of time.
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:06 pm to BuckyCheese
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I have yet to hear one thing that the defense benefitted with that move.
Well, defendants who choose to not testify are viewed as hiding something and thus guilty. So while I agree that putting him on the stand was the wrong thing to do you can't just say this is the reason because it seems like there are a couple of jurors who refuse to budge no matter what on Kyle being guilty. Even without the video or doctored image.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:06 pm to pointman
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Look, I hope you are right. Still think they have been warned about letting him go and what will happen to them and the town.
Nothing will happen. Its all smoke and mirrors. There will be a couple little protests and everyone will go home. The 2020 riots were designed specifically for the election.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:06 pm to hogcard1964
Its been almost 24hrs, the judge is a dinosaur to technology and too big of a pussy to do the right thing.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:08 pm to TrueTiger
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If that is the case then this will be mistrialed until the end of time.
This is what progressive "justice" looks like. Trials in perpetuity.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:10 pm to Lsut81
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Doubt we will get anything today. If they don't come out in the next hour, its tomorrow at earliest.
No way the judge is going to announce at dusk.
Judge is going to let them announce it when they have it. He will not make the jury come back tomorrow.
And argument to your thought, He would not announce they have a verdict so people can gather in mass tomorrow morning either
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:12 pm to IT_Dawg
Next Monday you'll get your answer.
No reason to announce it today or tomorrow.
He (the judge) probably already knows what their decision is.
...free meals for two more days.
No reason to announce it today or tomorrow.
He (the judge) probably already knows what their decision is.
...free meals for two more days.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:12 pm to TrueTiger
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If that is the case then this will be mistrialed until the end of time.
The state will try him again even if it's 11-1 to acquit.
Which is also punishment to the defendant. That is what government wants and they will get it one way or another.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:14 pm to IT_Dawg
If he would declare a mistrial when is it done. Let's say we get a hung jury and he makes that announcement. Does he then say however, because of the State's obvious jackassery I am granting a mistrial with prejudice.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:14 pm to BuckyCheese
Ol boy will be guilty i bet.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:14 pm to hogcard1964
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by allowing this jury more time
With all due respect, and I mean that, where does something like this come from? There is no set amount of time, but moreover there hasn't even been word of the jury notifying the judge that they can't all agree one way or the other. And mind you, perhaps they have come to agreement on some of the five charges but not others. But the main thing is that there's been no indication that the jury has given up.
Most of the pessimistic sentiment going on around here, while understandable, most of it is unwarranted. These are not attorneys who see these proceedings and things like jury instructions fairly often and easily understand it all, these are laypeople who have a lot to consider and try to make sense of it, and I do believe they want to be certain of the conclusions they come to.
Completely normal. Worst case scenario, hung jury.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:14 pm to BuckyCheese
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Which is also punishment to the defendant. That is what government wants and they will get it one way or another.
They should file the prosecutrial misconduct lawsuits before they get the chance.
There would also be appeals of the motions to dismiss with prejudice.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:16 pm to TDTOM
He's a moonbat.
He's not going to declare a mistrial. He should have done it already, but so far hasn't.
He's not going to declare a mistrial. He should have done it already, but so far hasn't.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:17 pm to davyjones
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And mind you, perhaps they have come to agreement on some of the five charges but not others. But the main thing is that there's been no indication that the jury has given up.
Right, and if the foreman is a hold out she could say I am done. You are not changing my mind, period.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:18 pm to BuckyCheese
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The state will try him again even if it's 11-1 to acquit.
Unless Wisconsin gets another Scott Walker in and just pardon him.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:18 pm to BuckyCheese
Seeing how much coverage Kyle got, if it's majority in his favor, I'd be floored if they go for round 2.
He'd more than likely receive huge funding and have options to hire even better representation and experts. Not to mention the prosecution's star witness having to admit "Yeah, I was justifiably shot"
This was a case the media blew up and ended up losing credibility on once it was in the public eye.
He'd more than likely receive huge funding and have options to hire even better representation and experts. Not to mention the prosecution's star witness having to admit "Yeah, I was justifiably shot"
This was a case the media blew up and ended up losing credibility on once it was in the public eye.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:19 pm to TDTOM
The longer it takes I'm convinced they're scared to make a decision.
I mean if you don't think you know if he is innocent or guilty by now then when will you?
I mean if you don't think you know if he is innocent or guilty by now then when will you?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:19 pm to hogcard1964
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He's not going to declare a mistrial. He should have done it already, but so far hasn't.
He stated yesterday after he finished reading it, that he needed the state to submit written responses to it, then the defense can refute those, before he makes a ruling. He also said he was not likely to make a ruling until after they hear from the jury, “as it may not even be needed”
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:20 pm to boogiewoogie1978
They know what their decision is. They just can't announce it now.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:20 pm to davyjones
As I understand if found to be self defense all lesser charges are also gone.
Being it was obviously self defense, I think this is where the angst is coming from.
It's pretty cut and dried to anyone other than an activist or bleeding vagina/CaptSpaulding.
Being it was obviously self defense, I think this is where the angst is coming from.
It's pretty cut and dried to anyone other than an activist or bleeding vagina/CaptSpaulding.
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