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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:56 am to Bamafan24
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:56 am to Bamafan24
Hopefully today, but most likely a hung jury. Anyone who sat through that trial and needs more than a day to deliberate a clear self-defense is a crank lefty looking to hang a kid.
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:56 am to Bamafan24
Allow the jury to continue to deliberate
Hold a hearing to determine if Fatlock and Fluffer deliberately withheld evidence
If the jury comes back NG, move on and sanction F&F as needed
If the jury is hung, grant the mistrial with prejudice
Guilty verdict isn’t happening
Hold a hearing to determine if Fatlock and Fluffer deliberately withheld evidence
If the jury comes back NG, move on and sanction F&F as needed
If the jury is hung, grant the mistrial with prejudice
Guilty verdict isn’t happening
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:56 am to RCDfan1950
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They will NOT walk out of the deliberation room without a conviction...of some sort. Likely Negligent Homicide, or anything that will pacify the heathen outside the courtroom.
If he isn't convicted on every single count they will riot anyway so giving a compromise conviction does nothing to appease the mob and just destroys an innocent man's life.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to Bamafan24
There will be a disposition if the case today.
That may be by verdict or mistrial (with our without prejudice).
That may be by verdict or mistrial (with our without prejudice).
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to Bamafan24
No matter when the verdict comes down, if its a hung jury or not guilty, the media say he's guilty and social media will go on to censor or ban anyone who "claims" he is innocent.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to Centinel
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Because we are no longer a nation of laws
We are.
It’s just that interpretation of those laws changes from judge to judge.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to Bamafan24
I told you guys on a previous post of mine, they are looking for something, anything they can convict him on. No way they allow him to walk. Too afraid of leftist.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 7:57 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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My $.02 on the subject is that they are dragging it out for a few days in hopes that some of the fine protesters lose interest and go home.
lol they’re being paid to be there.
Plus, with the mayor or whomever saying “all is well, go about your regular day. It’s all bueno!” isn’t reassuring to the populace
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:00 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
They will NOT walk out of the deliberation room without a conviction...of some sort.
You really couldn’t be more wrong. There are 6 minimum who are NG on all counts and those people will not budge
There’s video
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:02 am to Bamafan24
serious question. how long can the jury hold out before the judge steps in and says make a decision or ill make it? can the jury take a month, two, or more if they feel its needed? thank you.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:04 am to member12
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I’m not even on the jury.
Almost guaranteed if the jury was all hung this would be over.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:04 am to 511
There is no limit but the jury foreman will inform the judge that minds are set and not changing. Judge can send them back anyway but if no changes in a day or so it will be called a hung jury
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:05 am to OccamsStubble
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You really couldn’t be more wrong. There are 6 minimum who are NG on all counts and those people will not budge
Yep. Acquittal or hung due to 1-2 holdouts.
I’m curious if the mistrial will be with or without prejudice. Not sure why the defense would ask for dismissal WITH prejudice, then follow it up with an additional dismissal request WITHOUT.
Seems like their position was strengthened.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:05 am to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:Nah. There are people on the jury who are set to convict.
My $.02 on the subject is that they are dragging it out for a few days in hopes that some of the fine protesters lose interest and go home
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:06 am to OccamsStubble
thank you. i appreciate it.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to 511
Surbuban white women worried about social backlash will be the downfall of Kyle Rittenhouse.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to Kracka
Very little faith this judge will mistrial if the jury comes back with a verdict.
He will leave it up to appeals process where the burden is then switched against Kyle.
Under any reasonable judge this would be tossed already. He says all the right words but doesn’t want this to be how he is remembered.
He will leave it up to appeals process where the burden is then switched against Kyle.
Under any reasonable judge this would be tossed already. He says all the right words but doesn’t want this to be how he is remembered.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:08 am to Bamafan24
Serious question, and I'm probably going to get down-voted for it, but here it goes:
I agree that it's self-defense if you grant that Rittenhouse had as much right to be there as anyone else. If I were on the jury, I would definitely not convict on any kind of a pre-meditated homicide. However, he did purchase the gun illegally, right (though that would be a violation of federal, not state law, and this court would not have jurisdiction), and there was a curfew that night (Though obviously not enforced). Had he not bought the gun or broken curfew, he would not be in this situation. Does he not bear some responsibility, moral if not legal (and I get that the law may create technical issues that may make "legal" different from "moral")?
My personal opinion is that a 17 year old (being 17) thought it would be cool to be down there to use his first aid training and maybe protect property. He brought his AR with him, assuming that the sight of it would deter anyone from attacking him, but didn't think through what would happen if someone did. Basically, if you're part of a riot (that is, AT a riot), YOU are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Go home, and let professional law enforcement handle it. If the pros don't handle it, that's what we have elections for.
About me, I'm very pro 2A, and support the right to armed self-defense, but I expect anyone who does leave their him armed to exercise common sense, and I don't think Rittenhouse did.
Thoughts? Or, just down-vote away.
BTW, I'd guess end with a hung jury today or tomorrow. And more riots.
I agree that it's self-defense if you grant that Rittenhouse had as much right to be there as anyone else. If I were on the jury, I would definitely not convict on any kind of a pre-meditated homicide. However, he did purchase the gun illegally, right (though that would be a violation of federal, not state law, and this court would not have jurisdiction), and there was a curfew that night (Though obviously not enforced). Had he not bought the gun or broken curfew, he would not be in this situation. Does he not bear some responsibility, moral if not legal (and I get that the law may create technical issues that may make "legal" different from "moral")?
My personal opinion is that a 17 year old (being 17) thought it would be cool to be down there to use his first aid training and maybe protect property. He brought his AR with him, assuming that the sight of it would deter anyone from attacking him, but didn't think through what would happen if someone did. Basically, if you're part of a riot (that is, AT a riot), YOU are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Go home, and let professional law enforcement handle it. If the pros don't handle it, that's what we have elections for.
About me, I'm very pro 2A, and support the right to armed self-defense, but I expect anyone who does leave their him armed to exercise common sense, and I don't think Rittenhouse did.
Thoughts? Or, just down-vote away.
BTW, I'd guess end with a hung jury today or tomorrow. And more riots.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:09 am to BobBoucher
quote:I believe he will be convicted of at least 1 charge
No way
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:10 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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How long can they wait before they call for a verdict? My $.02 on the subject is that they are dragging it out for a few days in hopes that some of the fine protesters lose interest and go home. . . It won't work but it may be an option they're considering.
Then they are idiots. The longer it goes the more pressure builds.
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