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re: Knee to the neck just debunked in court
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:53 pm to Hayekian serf
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:53 pm to Hayekian serf
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You guys were are nuts if you think he’s getting a non guilty verdict
In no way do I think he will be found 'not guilty" but I would rejoice if he did.
Of course, if that happens, some of the jurors may be killed, some may have to enter protective custody and cancel their current livelihoods and live in hiding the rest of their days, and city blocks will burn and many more will die in the aftermath, bringing in MORE show-trials that demonstrate the 'systemic racism' that pervades society today.
More elections will be turned over to SJWs demanding "justice NOW!!" who will strangle the last breath of truth, honesty, integrity, responsibility from the rotting corpse of the USA culture.
Either way - we lose.
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:55 pm to Hayekian serf
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You guys were are nuts if you think he’s getting a non guilty verdict
I wouldn't bet against a guilty verdict on the second degree manslaughter charge. Who knows what's motivating the jury, or if they are taking their duty seriously, or if they're afraid of returning a not guilty verdict, etc.
Who knows.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:59 pm to AMS
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any amount of excess restriction of chest wall excursion in a person with respiratory distress may be life threatening. its like if grandma was having trouble breathing so you decide to help her by holding a pillow over her head.
I am literally watching a small, lame idea bouncing around in a large dark cave trying desperately trying to find a way out into the light, but losing impact every time it bounces off another obstacle on its ill-fated journey towards relevance.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:00 pm to the808bass
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Great. Did he do anything wrong at all? Or are we going to whitewash the whole thing?
did you miss this part?
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which is why GF losing consciousness, rookie cop saying he cant find a pulse, “should we roll him over” and chauvin not changing tactics is reckless endangerment to me
I think Chauvin is a dirty cop who should have recognized the situation and reacted in a more humane manner. Chauvin may have been "dead right" by the MPD book but the "dead" is GF and justice must be served. His career should be over, his pension nullified and he should be convicted of reckless endangerment and serve an appropriate penalty for that crime.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:01 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I am literally watching a small, lame idea bouncing around in a large dark cave trying desperately trying to find a way out into the light, but losing impact every time it bounces off another obstacle on its ill-fated journey towards relevance.
pretty sure AMS is a lady and she is running this shite into the ground on TWO boards
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:30 pm to supatigah
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His career should be over, his pension nullified and he should be convicted of reckless endangerment and serve an appropriate penalty for that crime.
Any approach to that objective would meet with zero obstacles from me.
It is the friggin' MURDER charge that causes me to choke - the evolution of the only pre-incident CRIMINAL in the situation into sainthood is a world turned upside down. Memorials for a criminal in 5 states??? absurd.
A cop may or may not have conducted himself with perfection - he may or may not have acted with some degree of reckless disregard. But he in NO WAY was involved with MURDER!!
This is nothing more than another chance to gather a scalp for the totem pole to bandy about along with those gathered in the aftermath of Michael Brown, et al.
The double standard is so prevalent today that it is disgusting.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:42 pm to Lg
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You believe there weren't ANY other contributing factors that caused GF to die, correct?
No. I didn’t say that. But Floyd didn’t overdose.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:44 pm to Willie Stroker
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I’m not sure where you’re going with this. Seems like you’re suggesting that the murder trial should have a broader scope than murder.
No. I’m simply posing the question. You have a number of posters on this board defending Chauvin as if he did nothing wrong and Floyd overdosed. Neither of those is true.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:45 pm to supatigah
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think Chauvin is a dirty cop who should have recognized the situation and reacted in a more humane manner. Chauvin may have been "dead right" by the MPD book but the "dead" is GF and justice must be served. His career should be over, his pension
So he was dead right by the procedure manual and Floyds death is due to his own actions but lets lock him up so justice can be served. Fentanyl, crystal meth, covid 19, heart disease with blockage, sickle cell and mix all that together with drug induced panic and blood pressure shooting sky high and there is your killer. So is Chauvin a dick? I don't know but he doesn't deserve to go to prison because he might be.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
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Neither of those is true.
Wrong Snowflake.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:53 pm to the808bass
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No. I didn’t say that. But Floyd didn’t overdose.
So he took the illegal drugs at a proper dose?
If he had been allowed to leave after his initial contact with cops that day, he would not have been hospitalized based on his reaction to the drugs in his system?
What do you think he was reacting to when he kept repeating that he couldn’t breathe while being placed in the police vehicle?
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:54 pm to the808bass
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Floyd didn’t overdose.
????
Didn't the toxicology report say otherwise?? or has that been debunked?? I recall "2 to 3 time lethal limits" being in some official documentation. Is that wrong?? or has it been updated??
I really hate being wrong - please inform me.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:59 pm to SOSFAN
I don’t know why people argue with 808 on these threads. It’s like people on MSB or OTL arguing with mmbeer or dawgfan (not puttting him in their camp) You’re not changing their minds.
I find him to be a fantastic poster whom I agree with on 90% of issues and usually I understand where he’s coming from when I do disagree with him.
That being said, he doesn’t see middle ground on most of these cases and hasn’t as far back as Ferguson. Not saying he’s wrong but there’s never been gray area or
No offense brother
I find him to be a fantastic poster whom I agree with on 90% of issues and usually I understand where he’s coming from when I do disagree with him.
That being said, he doesn’t see middle ground on most of these cases and hasn’t as far back as Ferguson. Not saying he’s wrong but there’s never been gray area or
No offense brother
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:00 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Knee to the neck just debunked in court
"debunked"
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:02 pm to AMS
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they are taught to monitor things like pulse, respiration, and consciousness when applying what their training determined to be dangerous restraint like the knee on the back.
You have no idea what the frick you're talking about all throughout this thread
Source: I'm literally a federal law enforcement officer
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AMS
Oh wait... I'm responding to a troll that made their mind up nearly a year ago and refuses to see any new facts that come to light. You infamously condemned Chauvin right after it happened all over this board, and your bias hasn't changed an ounce since.
You seem to think of yourself as some sort of "intellectual", but you constantly make emotional and baseless claims throughout posts on this topic.
You say it was "dangerous to kneel on someone with respiratory distress like Floyd's" (paraphrasing), but TOTALLY gloss over WHY he was in respiratory distress to begin with
Even I - a US Marshal - was trained to kneel on the back of a resisting perp right between the shoulder blades while they're in the prone position. This is also part of the training on excited delirium syndrome and how to combat the effects.
Once again, you have no fricking clue what you're talking about here and should be ignored
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:02 pm to mmcgrath
Now show the cop cam angle that debunked the " knee on neck for over 9 minutes ".
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:07 pm to 3nOut
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No offense brother
None taken. I've watched all of the trial and I'm trying to just stick with the information thats come out in court. Anyone not willing to listen and adjust their opinions based off of facts never cared about justice in the first place they only have an agenda.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:07 pm to BiteMe2020
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Who knows what's motivating the jury,
evidence hopefully?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:20 pm to SOSFAN
quote:Every single video supports that. The defense is showing 6 seconds when the paramedic came up and aske Chauvin to move so he could check for a pulse.
Now show the cop cam angle that debunked the " knee on neck for over 9 minutes ".
Posted on 4/6/21 at 5:22 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:And you don't check for a pulse or if the guy is conscious?
Even I - a US Marshal - was trained to kneel on the back of a resisting perp right between the shoulder blades while they're in the prone position. This is also part of the training on excited delirium syndrome and how to combat the effects.
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