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re: Knee to the neck just debunked in court
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:41 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:41 am to the808bass
False.
One autopsy found that if Floyd had died in his home his death would have been ruled an overdose.
Reasonable doubt is the standard, not Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
One autopsy found that if Floyd had died in his home his death would have been ruled an overdose.
Reasonable doubt is the standard, not Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:42 am
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 11:28 am to novabill
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He should have been in the car.
Cop guilty.
You are an absolute moron. You, AMS,Dumb shite TX, etc.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:25 pm to the808bass
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This is a weird post. A guy saying “I can’t breathe” is evidence that he is lying about not being able to breathe?
he said it pretty loud and clear multiple times amongst other things he was saying. one would need to actually be able to breath to say, I cant breathe loudly
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:15 pm to dgnx6
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So you mean the knee to the neck for 9 minutes was a lie?
No way. The media never lies about these things. Hands up don’t shoot really happened too.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:41 pm to ChineseBandit58
So he didn't kill him and he died because he was on so many drugs and had covid.
The camera angle that was fixated on him that was wrong should have Hannity and everyone apologizing
The camera angle that was fixated on him that was wrong should have Hannity and everyone apologizing
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:43 pm to supatigah
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one would need to actually be able to breath to say, I cant breathe loudly
How many people need to die saying “I can’t breathe” before you discard this silliness?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:44 pm to BiteMe2020
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One autopsy found that if Floyd had died in his home his death would have been ruled an overdose.
That’s not a finding, you fricking idiot.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:51 pm to the808bass
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That’s not a finding, you fricking idiot.
It was what the medical examiner said, lol.
Of course, you've invented a whole new standard for criminal trial, lol: If it's remotely possible, then you must convict!
Reasonable doubt be damned, right?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:52 pm to the808bass
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How many people need to die saying “I can’t breathe” before you discard this silliness?
One?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 2:35 pm to the808bass
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How many people need to die saying “I can’t breathe” before you discard this silliness?
maybe we should clarify the difference between saying something loud and clear versus gasping something? dude was saying a lot for someone who is unable to get adequate air in his lungs
i am amazed at how some are so deadset on burning Chauvin that they ignore the difference between hyperventilating, having a panic attack, suffering from Covid, ODing on drugs or two cops sitting on you pressing on your back and neck. the net result to the victim may be the same but the circumstances around them are all different and cast reasonable doubt all over this case
which is why GF losing consciousness, rookie cop saying he cant find a pulse, “shouid we roll him over” and chauvin not changing tactics is reckless endangerment to me
GF was sitting in the cop car and then standing next to the police unit saying he cant breathe and then also laying on his stomach on the ground with two cops on him saying he cant breathe. is it all the same thing?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 2:50 pm to the808bass
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Who overdosed on fentanyl?
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More than 36,000 people died from overdoses involving synthetic opioids in 2019.3
Posted on 4/6/21 at 2:52 pm to the808bass
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That’s not a finding, you fricking idiot.
Reasonable doubt, I hope you never go to trial and have someone as dumb as you on your jury.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:06 pm to dgnx6
That’s a separate question to his assertion. If I am at home and have an aneurysm, the aneurysm will be assumed to have occurred naturally. If I’m in a car wreck and then have an aneurysm, the car wreck will be part of the causal chain discussion.
In the same way, if I’m at home and die, without any other perceived possible causes, the drugs will be assumed to have caused the death by themselves. If someone is kneeling on me and I’m saying I can’t breathe, then it’s natural to assume that’s part of the causal chain of my death.
This isn’t rocket science. Y’all are starting from the desired result and working backwards.
In the same way, if I’m at home and die, without any other perceived possible causes, the drugs will be assumed to have caused the death by themselves. If someone is kneeling on me and I’m saying I can’t breathe, then it’s natural to assume that’s part of the causal chain of my death.
This isn’t rocket science. Y’all are starting from the desired result and working backwards.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:07 pm to supatigah
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cast reasonable doubt all over this case
Great. Did he do anything wrong at all? Or are we going to whitewash the whole thing?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:35 pm to the808bass
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In the same way, if I’m at home and die, without any other perceived possible causes, the drugs will be assumed to have caused the death by themselves.
there is a whole universe of situations between /\ this /\ and \/ that \/
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If someone is kneeling on me and I’m saying I can’t breathe, then it’s natural to assume that’s part of the causal chain of my death.
You need to consider a lot of stuff the decedent did in that continuum = suppose we substitute the last part of that with:
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if I take a triple overdose of some drug coctail - then go out and rob a store and get into a conflict with the store owner, and pass out in my car, and when approached by poilice I swallow the remaining horde of dope that is in my possession (becasue that is my way to not be in possession and its worked before) and then I resist cooperating with the police, and work myself into a frothing rage resisting their efforts to help me, and become so aggressive they have to subdue me, and I have been complaining "I can't breathe ever since I woke up from being passed out) and continue to struggle after they put the cuffs on me, and ask the troops to lay me down saying "I can't breath," and after they lay me down I continue to struggle and begin foaming at the mouth but continue struggling right up until I pass out and die, but meanwhile the police are still in their approved restraint position at the last moment of my life, and the SJW onlookers are thinking that the police just came out 'hunting for a new black guy to kill, but my actions had no contribution to my death - therefore murder."
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:36 pm to the808bass
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Y’all are starting from the desired result and working backwards.
So let me get this straight. You believe there weren't ANY other contributing factors that caused GF to die, correct? You are saying it is a DIRECT result from the officer's actions.
If he had had cardiac arrest in the back of the police cruiser due the the amount of drugs and alcohol in his system, who would be at fault?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:41 pm to the808bass
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Great. Did he do anything wrong at all? Or are we going to whitewash the whole thing?
I’m not sure where you’re going with this. Seems like you’re suggesting that the murder trial should have a broader scope than murder.
Wrongdoing can also be addressed in a civil court. We know there was a settlement. The family is richer than they ever thought George Floyd would make them.
I wonder if they would now trade those millions to have George Dloyd back in their lives.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:43 pm to ChineseBandit58
You guys were are nuts if you think he’s getting a non guilty verdict
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:44 pm to the808bass
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This isn’t rocket science. Y’all are starting from the desired result and working backwards.
Just looking at the specific charges, the available evidence, and the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt". It's really easy. I doubt that Chauvin's actions would have killed Floyd had Floyd not been high as a kite on a lethal amount of drugs.
Ergo... innocent of the specific charges brought against him.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:47 pm to the808bass
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Did he do anything wrong at all? Or are we going to whitewash the whole thing?
Whether he 'didn't do anything at all" is not the question - the only thing most of us are opposing is the MURDER charge.
I have my reservations about how "perfect" he handled the situation, but I in no way think he had anything to do with any degree of MURDER!!!.
Charge his with being an imperfect human being and begin an honest investigation into what should have been done differently at what stage, based on the totality of the information available at the moment, and see if there were materially any difference with the way the event would have turned out (but resist the temptation to look at the actual outcome to demand prescience at every step along the way.
I am totally in step with the notion that what a person does during the arrest process is way more influential in the eventual outcome of the interaction than what the police does in reaction to the aggression.
Police are human beings, want to go home in one piece every night and enjoy their lives. We cannot expect them to be perfect predictors of future actions by deranged and mentally incompetent drug addicts. I fully support their following approved procedures in the best way that ensures that they will be able to tuck their children to bed that night.
And the best way to not suffer any ill effects from policemen is very simple.
- Don't commit crimes.
- If you do commit a crime, don't fight with the police when they come to arrest you.
IF everyone followed those two dictums, it would be absolutely obvious whenever the "hate-filled white supremacist cop strutted down the street killing every black youth he encountered on their way to their pre-med classes."
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