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re: Kimmel's first amendment rights are not being violated.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:21 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:21 am to RoosterCogburn585
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he being arrested for his speech? Are there any legal repercussions for what he said
100% this. I’m constantly amazed how A LOT of people do not grasp what the meaning of the 1st amendment is.
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:23 am to RollTide4547
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Bull Excrement. The ONLY way to fight a bully is to bully them back. Give them a BIG dose of their own medicine. They won't like it at all, but force it down their throats so that they NEVER consider doing it to anyone else again.
See, this is where we differ. I agree with you that the Obama and Biden administrations walked all over the first amendment with their control over social media and the resulting censorship. I just don't agree that the right way to fight that battle is to further erode the first amendment. Unfortunately, many share your view and the entire constitution is meaningless if both sides of the aisle excuse violations of constitutional rights "because the other side did it too."
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:25 am to RoosterCogburn585
He should have been fired long ago for impersonating a comedian.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:31 am to UpToPar
dude, please.
ABC fired this guy because their large affiliate owners were going to get torn to shreds by advertisers. Same for the college professors, on-air personalities, and others who lost their jobs because their employers don't want to be associated with murder sympathizers who celebrate political assassinations on social media. The government took zero action. This is all private sector.
You are letting the MSM gaslight you. They didn't GAF when conservatives were losing their platforms and getting fired left and right, and neither did you.
ABC fired this guy because their large affiliate owners were going to get torn to shreds by advertisers. Same for the college professors, on-air personalities, and others who lost their jobs because their employers don't want to be associated with murder sympathizers who celebrate political assassinations on social media. The government took zero action. This is all private sector.
You are letting the MSM gaslight you. They didn't GAF when conservatives were losing their platforms and getting fired left and right, and neither did you.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:31 am to UpToPar
quote:As long as you give the bully your lunch money, he'll keep taking it. I'm partly to blame for us being where we are. For years, I just keep my head down and was too cowardly to stand up to the left and fight back. Not any more.
I just don't agree that the right way to fight that battle is to further erode the first amendment. Unfortunately, many share your view and the entire constitution is meaningless if both sides of the isle excuse violations of constitutional rights "because the other side did it too."
quote:I don't believe this had anything to do with the constitution. Blackface Jimmy was a 30 Million a year loss for the company and that's why he's gone.
the entire constitution is meaningless
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:32 am to RoosterCogburn585
people forget that words/actions have consequences.
You have every right to say whatever vile, evil thing you want. However, your employer has the right to fire you, your spouse/family have the right to shun you, society has the right to cast you off.
You have every right to say whatever vile, evil thing you want. However, your employer has the right to fire you, your spouse/family have the right to shun you, society has the right to cast you off.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:34 am to paulb52
This dude has HOURS of public material where he makes lewd, sexist, and racist jokes. He wears blackface and objectifies women dating back decades.
Why is he allowed to get away with that when others were humiliated? He finally got his comeuppance
Why is he allowed to get away with that when others were humiliated? He finally got his comeuppance
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:35 am to UpToPar
I appreciate this thoughtful and objective analysis.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:35 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Pretty big "if" there. If your aunt had a dick she would be your uncle.
Sure. And we still don't know if that's what happened, but it's not illogical to think that could be the case.
Point being, the question is not whether he was arrested or suffered other legal consequences as your OP suggests. The question is whether this move was forced by the FCC. If it was, then the first amendment absolutely applies (note: this doesn't mean that there was a violation of the first amendment, it just means that we have to engage in the first amendment analysis to determine if there was a violation). Government action is the threshold question, not whether he was arrested (although an arrest would certainly be the most extreme example of government action).
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:37 am to PJinAtl
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The FCC couldn't just pull their broadcast license, there would have to be a hearing or something like that.
This is correct. Licensee’s are entitled to due process when it comes to the FCC pulling a license.
But all that is irrelevant. ABC pulled the show because 70 to 80 affiliates we’re going to preempt the show.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:38 am to UpToPar
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Is he being arrested for his speech? Are there any legal repercussions for what he said?
quote:so, since you are more well versed than the rest of us...
Folks that don't understand the first amendment should probably just keep their mouth shut on this one. That includes OP.
Should all the people, past and future, who shouted down, blocked access, flipped over tables, and otherwise stopped conservatives, including Charlie Kirk, from speaking on campuses of public universities be facing federal civil rights violation criminal charges?
Yes or no.
quote:that number is more like 450...
But all that is irrelevant. ABC pulled the show because 70 to 80 affiliates we’re going to preempt the show.
185 for Sinclair and 265 for Nexstar. Most non-metro area coverages (not coastal elites)
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:38 am to UpToPar
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The question is whether this move was forced by the FCC.
Sinclair has pulled airing his show. This spurred ABC/Disney to pull Kimmel. Consequences and such.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:39 am to Vacherie Saint
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ABC fired this guy because their large affiliate owners were going to get torn to shreds by advertisers. Same for the college professors, on-air personalities, and others who lost their jobs because their employers don't want to be associated with murder sympathizers who celebrate political assassinations on social media. The government took zero action. This is all private sector.
This may very well be true, and if that's the case, I agree that the first amendment does not even come into play. Again, my initial posts were simply to shed light on the fact that many people (including the OP) have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the first amendment works. And I don't mean that to be derogatory. These conversations, particularly with those from the other side, are better had when both parties at least have a rudamentary understanding of what they are talking about.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:43 am to I20goon
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Should all the people, past and future, who shouted down, blocked access, flipped over tables, and otherwise stopped conservatives, including Charlie Kirk, from speaking on campuses of public universities be facing federal civil rights violation criminal charges?
It depends on who those "people" are. If "people" is referring to University admin or other state or federal actors, then absolutely. If "people" is referring to private individuals then I don't see how this would fall under a civil rights violation.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:44 am to RoosterCogburn585
Traitor Kimmel did not lose a single right. Not one.
He can still give any opinion he wants. He was just introduced to the RESPONSIBILITIES that accompany his Rights and shown the consequences of failing to meet them.
He can still give any opinion he wants. He was just introduced to the RESPONSIBILITIES that accompany his Rights and shown the consequences of failing to meet them.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:46 am to UpToPar
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That's simply incorrect IF (and that's a big IF) the FCC is involved
It seems the only ones making ignorant arguments here are those like you that assert the FCC was involved without any concrete proof and that their supposed involvement directly precipitated the preempting of Kimmel's show. Which is pretty hard to get behind given the speed at which this all happened, capitalism moves a hell of a lot faster than government bureaucracy after all.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:48 am to UpToPar
That's all well and good, but you cannot dance without a willing partner can you? The left is NEVER going to stop cancelling and being hypocrites about it. The right is tired of being polite and ready to fight back. We played this game for 30 years and lost. Enough is enough. People are getting killed, man.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:51 am to RoosterCogburn585
Sure you can say what you want that dont protect you from actions taken after that speech
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:52 am to Vacherie Saint
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ABC fired this guy because their large affiliate owners were going to get torn to shreds by advertisers.
This is the biggest reason, but it doesn't draw rage-clicks/views. Nexstar and Sinclair are the two largest ABC affiliates with Nexstar having 32 (not sure how many are JSA's) and Sinclair having 30 (with three operating under JSA's) and both of them called ABC to say they would no longer be running Kimmel on their affiliates (covering the time with other programs).
That's over 5 dozen stations covering 32 Designated Market Areas (DMA's), 7 in top 100 markets and 5 in top 50 markets. That sort of stroke carries weight.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:52 am to UpToPar
Yeah so why are you running your tongue free speech doesent protect you from being fired so shut the hell up
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