re: Kid who beat teacher for taking away his Nintendo has pled guilty. Punishment?

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the replies to this thread that act like autism, sociopathy, or psychopathy can just be willed away, or that they deserve no empathy, are fairly depressing ... Life has nuance. Keyboard warriors rarely do.

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Deep, nuanced thought/analysis is not really a strength for everyone here.

If that is what you were seeking, you were looking in the wrong place.

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Jail serves two basic, parallel purposes: protecting society and punishing the wrongdoer.

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Jails also became the mental institutions. Mental Institutions have gone away but prisons increased. Jail unfortunately is where he needs to be.

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I think the parents should have accepted that he could never be mainstream.

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Some simply use schools as caretakers for their kids during the day.

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Good Lord.

Some? sure.

But did you bother to read about this case, at ALL? There parents knowingly adopted a severely-dysfunctional kid in hopes of providing him with a good home and as "normal" a childhood as he was capable of experiencing. They weren't warehousing this kid. They put him in school in a (misplaced) desire to do right by him.

I mentioned it earlier but one of the teenagers we fostered came from a broken home, both parents were meth addicts, both parents beat the ever living hell out of him and he literally was forced to steal to get food. He was covered in scars from his Dad putting out lit cigarettes on his skin for the most minor of infractions. He was also sexually abused by his Dad and Grandfather as well as his half brother.
His freshmen year of high school, he apparently got into his parents stache of meth, and went to school high as a kite, he was immediately confronted by his teachers and principal and when they tried to remove him from his classroom, he started beating his principal. He was obviously expelled and he then bounced around a few foster homes after that and eventually landed in something similar to juvie. He was only supposed to be there for 3 months, ended up being a year because nobody would take him in.

My wife has a big heart, it is one of things I most love her for but when she read his story, she felt a calling to take him in. We took him in, but the placement didn’t last long. I’m personally not a big fan of being medicated, but I’ve dealt with PTS for years since my last deployment to Afghanistan so I’m on my fair share of medications. I also know that if I stray from the treatment plan, my anxiety and depression will take me over. I say that to say this kid was on far more medications that needed to be taken at certain times throughout the day and he hated taking them. If it were up to us, we would have homeschooled him, he just wasn’t ready to be a traditional school setting but because he was a foster kid, he was technically the “property” of the state for lack of a better term. And because of that, he had to attend public school. Yeah, a kid that can’t function without a handful of pills a day who had already been kicked out of one school for beating up the principal was forced to go back into a traditional classroom setting. He was only with us for a couple of months, he was constantly in trouble at school, suspended and it turned into pretty much his entire time with us was one grounding after another.

I personally believe that if the state had let him take a different approach to school, he would have been better for it. Around us, he was a great kid, he listened, he was respectful, and was truly a caring kid. Granted he wasn’t with us long, but in that time he did great in our Church’s youth group, never caused a problem there. He just could not behave in school. The state and his family failed him in so many ways. Towards the end he stopped taking his meds and tried running away and it got to the point we just couldn’t be what he needed and he fell back into the system, a system that had already failed him. Last we heard he was back in his hometown which is a couple of hours away but because he turned 18 was no longer in the state system. I’m certain we’ll either hear that he ended up in prison or dead, but there is nothing we could do, I hate that feeling

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Mental Institution is the only way.

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Sounds likely. Then again the judge found him competent to stand trial. So it sort of shoots the mental institution concept all to hell.

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Any child that requires this system to function should not be in a school with regular people.

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"Mainstreaming" was a social justice effort that hurt achievers and destroyed the classrooms. The desire for egalitarianism is stupid.

When I was in school, there was no mainstreaming and classes were far less disruptive.

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For sure, there needs to be accountability, but there is more to the story. According to his adoptive (white) mom, the kid has struggled with a number of mental issues his whole life, including autism, ADHD, etc.

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This doesn't matter if the safety of the public, and punishment for the criminal act are your primary concerns.

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For the kid, though, should those consequences be 30 years in prison?

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30 years would be pretty harsh if he had stopped at knocking her down, but every blow after she was unconscious, was essentially attempted murder.

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Deep, nuanced thought/analysis is not really a strength for everyone here.

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Nuanced thought as in "muslims are only violent because they take their Holy book out of context".

Or nuance as in calling Kyle Rittenhouse a murderer?

Or nuance as in white-splaining what black people are really like to T-Bird....

THAT sort of nuance?

You get more pathetic with each alter, Hank.

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This year’s teacher changed the overall reward system to allow students to access their electronics once they were done with their work.

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Teacher is ignorant. What a stupid thing to do.