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re: Kharg island heavily bombed per POTUS
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:33 am to Lee B
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Maybe a few aren't scared to die, but fear of death is in the genes of every human. Over the millenia, the ones who didn't have that instinct have been efficiently selected out of the gene pool before they could reproduce and raise their young.
You might be well served to study Imperial Japan in WWII (ever hear of Kamikaze pilots, for starters)
Japan surrendered rather than face massive deaths. The large majority of Japanese had zero interest in dying for the emperor, and neither did he.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:35 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:40 am to Kjnstkmn
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A resurfaced interview from 1988 has drawn fresh attention after US President Donald Trump ordered strikes on Iran’s strategic Kharg Island, revealing that the US president had spoken about attacking the same target nearly four decades ago.
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“It’d be harsh on Iran. They’ve been beating us psychologically, making us look like a bunch of fools,” Trump said. “One bullet shot at one of our men or ships and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it.”
Hes gonna take the oil. Kiwitard proving hes the dumbest
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:46 am to wdhalgren
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They surrendered if I recall correctly. Unconditional surrender. Roosevelt even corrected the language in their announcement.
I think you meant Truman. Roosevelt was dead.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:05 am to Free888
The Iranians are beat but it doesn’t take much apparently to cause havoc in the straight. My guess is that Iran simply hopes it can threaten ships in the straight maybe blow some up to get to the midterm elections with gas prices sky high. The democrats will do work for the Iranians by ending our chance at giving women and the good Iranian people freedom. At this point the Iranians go back to building a nuclear weapon or sign a deal with a Democrat to pay huge dollars like Obama did so not to use it on us.or perhaps not to finish building it. Bribery is what we are trying to avoid now. Freedom for the good people of Iran that we might have as something other than an enemy that they call great Satan. But most democrats care less about any of what’s happening in Iran and frankly here at home with our certain poor economy until the midterms rather will do the opposite of what Trump wants on all matters to see their miserable party of Biden, Kamala and Newsom return to power.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:17 am to BOHICAMAN
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I’d like to leave as much civilian infrastructure in place so we don’t have to rebuild it.
Spoken like a white self loathing American rooting for Iran in this conflict. You get one shot at life and you waste it with a weak ignorant perspective.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:25 am to Geauxldilocks
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You get one shot at life and you waste it with a weak ignorant perspective.

Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:27 am to AlterEd
“I understand that. But the island also is responsible for handling 95% of Iranian oil exports. If he destroys their infrastructure there it would completely destroy Iran's economy.
He just put a gun to their heads and told them to stop clogging the strait.”
Iran leadership will not care if they lose their assets if they don’t control the country. If they lose their goals will create an economic meltdown throughout the world with the losses of daily output from that region. Prices on oil would spike, followed by slow production of products and causing prices on everything to soar. This would be a last ditch effort in retaining whatever they can in power
He just put a gun to their heads and told them to stop clogging the strait.”
Iran leadership will not care if they lose their assets if they don’t control the country. If they lose their goals will create an economic meltdown throughout the world with the losses of daily output from that region. Prices on oil would spike, followed by slow production of products and causing prices on everything to soar. This would be a last ditch effort in retaining whatever they can in power
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:39 am to AlterEd
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He just put a gun to their heads and told them to stop clogging the strait.
If they don't stop, level it.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:59 am to HagaDaga
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Though can’t figure out the strategic need of this island. As it is way up far from the strait. Iran must hold it in high regard for some reason.
It would help if, after recognizing this is a No Iran Nukes War, it is a proxy war with China. They lost Venezuela oil and are now losing Iranian oil
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:08 am to Geauxldilocks
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Spoken like a white self loathing American rooting for Iran in this conflict. You get one shot at life and you waste it with a weak ignorant perspective.
Nah. I just know what the frick I’m talking about. I’m probably the biggest support of the war on this board.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:14 am to Penrod
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There are few products or commodities in the world that have supply and demand curves that are as well known and studied as those of oil. If the supply is reduced by X, analysts can come very close to telling you what the price will be.
The Iranian supply was already off limits to the world minus Russia, China, and North Korea.
It was sold to China at a below market price. I'm not sure about sales to Russia and North Korea.
This is not the same as Saudi Arabia taking their production offline. Or the US. Thus "wild speculation".
Iran has an impact on global price. But no where near the same influence.
I love how the experts predicted covid deaths. "It's math". Lol
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:22 am to meansonny
So Kharg Island can be shut down now with a loitering drone directing fire at any vessels that attempt to resupply the island maintenance and operation supply needs.
The last few weeks, Iran had been loading Chinese tankers and allowing passage through the straits knowing the US would avoid stopping a Chinese ship. Thats changed now and China may get on board with ending the Iranian Mullahs reign of terror.
The last few weeks, Iran had been loading Chinese tankers and allowing passage through the straits knowing the US would avoid stopping a Chinese ship. Thats changed now and China may get on board with ending the Iranian Mullahs reign of terror.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:24 am to meansonny
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The Iranian supply was already off limits to the world minus Russia, China, and North Korea.
It was sold to China at a below market price. I'm not sure about sales to Russia and North Korea.
This is not the same as Saudi Arabia taking their production offline. Or the US. Thus "wild speculation".
No sir! Oil is a fungible commodity. When China and Russia can no longer buy Iranian oil they turn to the world market and their added demand slides the price equilibrium point up the supply curve to a higher price.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:30 am to Penrod
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No sir! Oil is a fungible commodity. When China and Russia can no longer buy Iranian oil they turn to the world market and their added demand slides the price equilibrium point up the supply curve to a higher price.
No one else is permitted to sell oil to Russia. They aren't driving demand.
China was buying Iranian oil as a bartering tool. Paying off debt and trade. Not cash.
China is not cut off from the global supply.
But their markets are not dollar for dollar fungible because their systems were operating at below market cost inputs. Effectively doubling their cost inputs at $85 a barrel slows down the demand.
I am not saying that Iranian oil does not affect the market. But it is idiotic to adjust market prices as if US or Saudi were to shut off supply. $150 a barrel is akin to shutting off that type of input.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:36 am to meansonny
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No one else is permitted to sell oil to Russia. They aren't driving demand.
My mistake listing Russia. They are obviously an exporter of oil.
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China is not cut off from the global supply. But their markets are not dollar for dollar fungible because their systems were operating at below market cost inputs. Effectively doubling their cost inputs at $85 a barrel slows down the demand.
I implied the opposite of “China is not cut off from the global supply”.
Yes, cutting China off from cheap Iranian oil hurts them, and yes, the rising price for China will attenuate their demand, as well as demand everywhere.
I do think you are wrong in saying that this is very different from a similar reduction in Saudi oil, for example. I think the effect on worldwide supply, demand and price would be very similar, although the burden of Iranian cuts falls heaviest on China.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:44 am to Penrod
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I do think you are wrong in saying that this is very different from a similar reduction in Saudi oil, for example. I think the effect on worldwide supply, demand and price would be very similar, although the burden of Iranian cuts falls heaviest on China.
That's fair.
Bookmark it.
If/when oil hits 150 because Iran js offline. Give it a bump.
If im wrong in my "wild speculation" claim, I would own it.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:10 am to BOHICAMAN
I say we take the islands by force then offer it to all of the Muzzys and Somalis in the US.
Tell them they control the oil and the way it’s run for a profit percentage. Boom problems solved
Tell them they control the oil and the way it’s run for a profit percentage. Boom problems solved
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:13 am to meansonny
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Bookmark it.
If/when oil hits 150 because Iran js offline. Give it a bump.
That would be an interesting experiment. But I doubt Iranian oil goes off long enough to reach equilibrium. At least neither Trump nor the Iranians want that. Anyway, I rely on you, because I never remember to bump anything.
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