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re: Kane calls for Flock Pause
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:48 pm to BigPerm30
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:48 pm to BigPerm30
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You walk around with a fricking camera and hot mic in your pocket. You have mics and cameras all over your house the government can tap into if they want.
Big difference in something I can opt out of (turn your phone off or get a flip phone, etc) vs the government tracking my movement and I have 0 way to stop it except never leave my house
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:57 pm to Gee Grenouille
You have a problem with your local police, not Flock cameras. Flock cameras ARE NOT red light or speeding cameras. They are not watching you all the time. They are basically LPR cameras, i.e. license plate readers. Enter the license plate number and issuing state.and determine where the vehicle suspected of a crime has traveled. Most people here have no idea what they're talking about. And they are invaluable solving crimes, especially those crimes where the suspects cross jurisdictions. They are not big brother spying on you.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:58 pm to Judnnc
No
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:04 pm to BigPerm30
The problem is that flock is a private company and the government/law enforcement are able to obtain footage/tracking information directly from them without probable cause, subpoena, or warrant.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:16 pm to parrothead
It’s even worse because it’s a private company contracting with the gov and also selling all its data to anyone.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:16 pm to Big4SALTbro
Lot of brown shirts in this thread.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:24 pm to everytrueson
I want to give you a good example of why flock cameras should be banned
It's kind of a learning exercise
This is presumably a booking photo, I actually have no idea who this guy is but assuming y'alls internet works like mine, search it with google lens
It pulls up all kind of results about different nfl players
These big companies facial recognition technology doesn't work
It's kind of a learning exercise
This is presumably a booking photo, I actually have no idea who this guy is but assuming y'alls internet works like mine, search it with google lens
It pulls up all kind of results about different nfl players
These big companies facial recognition technology doesn't work
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:24 pm to Boston911
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There no difference in these cams and the ones being sold by other vendors or owned by municipalities
You miss the fact that that they're not just cameras. They're scanning bluetooth beacons (your phone, airpods, smart watches, etc), they link transmitting devices like phones to license plates, etc.
But it sure as shite didn't help when a group of thieves ripped off $30k of Ford tail lights out of three trucks in my gated parking garage in one night, because they stole a plate from some old lady in Richmond that drove a Buick.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:34 pm to Sev09
Because their customer is primarily law enforcement and government. The system is built for that usage. All states and local jurisdictions can participate as they please, meaning it's not integrated in all fifty states and all counties/municipalities in the country. Cameras on interstates are used for traffic management.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:38 pm to LemmyLives
So your rant about the cameras nefarious usage is contradicted by the criminal using a stolen plate to defeat the system. How ironic.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:49 pm to LemmyLives
Geez. We need someone to come up with some kind of device that somehow creates a signal that fricks with these things.
Weve gone hundreds/thousands of years without this level of surveillance, but now it's something we can't live without. We are being turned into Chyna by this govt.
Weve gone hundreds/thousands of years without this level of surveillance, but now it's something we can't live without. We are being turned into Chyna by this govt.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:00 pm to weagle1999
All things can be corrupted. No doubt in people being concerned about their privacy and rights..I'll never argue that. As a tool used correctly, this is a big winner in solving crimes. In the wrong hands, it's as dangerous as the handguns that are routinely stolen from unlocked vehicles.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:09 pm to Judnnc
We should propose that they be used to identify people of color for deportation.
That will end the flock cameras quickly.
That will end the flock cameras quickly.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:16 pm to done dancing
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As a tool used correctly, this is a big winner in solving crime
Except it won't be used to solve any crimes. If they wanted to make it open to the public, this would be a valuable tool. This is a private entity with permits for installing observation AI in public Rights of way. They say it is legal because anyone with a camera could do the same. But I would be arrested for loitering or some similar charge if I sat on the roadside with a camera filming traffic going by.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:23 pm to Judnnc
Here’s the problem with flock cameras….they are putting them everywhere when they are only needed in certain high crime.
My hood is incredibly safe and we have an Omnipresent police force and zero crime. Yet we are getting numerous flock cameras. Why? How will they improve crime prevention?
My hood is incredibly safe and we have an Omnipresent police force and zero crime. Yet we are getting numerous flock cameras. Why? How will they improve crime prevention?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:35 pm to Robin Masters
They don't prevent crime. They provide evidence in the totalality of the investigation. Our jurisdiciton has used them to solve murders and other felony crimes, prove complaints of crime that were insurance fraud, hit and runs, etc. Again, it's a tool if used correctly as are all forms of innovations in the free market and goverment. As I stated previously, most people on this forum have no idea what Flock cameras are or what their purpose is. Google could.help explain.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:45 pm to LemmyLives
quote:100% misinformation, that technology exists but not in the Flock system
You miss the fact that that they're not just cameras. They're scanning bluetooth beacons (your phone, airpods, smart watches, etc), they link transmitting devices like phones to license plates, etc
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:21 am to RemyLeBeau
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So you would be ok if the govt mandates ankle monitors? Or imbedded GPS to locate people with ease?
People are already doing that with their pets, in case they get lost.
Seems logical to do it for the people losing their minds.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:00 am to Diego Ricardo
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they would not have allowed it in the constitution
It’s nowhere in the constitution. It’s the judicial branch of government deciding that their fellow feds can override our rights for “the greater good”. I’m sure mandatory audio / video camera placement in appliances… maybe even light bulbs eventually, would allow the government to prosecute a rapist. A deputized citizen stationed in your home could help prosecutors as well. Funny how counter arguments stating how prevalent the surveillance state has already become is supposed to make US feel like idiots. The ruling about no expectation of privacy in public is about a citizen’s privacy vs a fellow citizen’s right to observe in public. Remember, the supreme court also ruled that government (police) can lie to you in their “investigations”, but see what happens if you get caught lying to government. Tail wagging the dog.
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