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re: Just watched that video of the man being shot in GA
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:39 am to Powerman
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:39 am to Powerman
Burglary is a felony in Georgia. I don’t know what evidence they had, that’s my entire point about all of this. It’s 100% possible they were legally justified in all of this. It’s also possible they were not.
There is conflicting information out there about what they believed, what evidence they had, and about what they saw.
There is conflicting information out there about what they believed, what evidence they had, and about what they saw.
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:46 am to Manzielathon
quote:The only suspicious activity in this video is two dudes blockading a road with guns.
who is clearly engaged in suspicious activity
quote:He made every correct decision. He was blocked front and rear, and right/left were private property. He went around the truck on the opposite side from the armed a-hole. Armed a-hole cut him off and met him on the other side. ANYBODY would fight at that point. You have to. It's instinct.
who is clearly making all the wrong decisions as this event escalates.
quote:That's what he did, until an armed a-hole jumped in front of him. The same a-hole he clearly tried to avoid.
He could have continued to run
quote:There is no fricking way I'm doing that in this guy's situation. Not a chance in hell. Two dudes with guns trying to nab me? No way. First I'd try to safely escape, which he did. But if they prevent that, the only choice is to fight, which he did.
or just stopped, waited, and dealt with the police
quote:A fight instigated by two armed assholes.
He instead chose to fight a battle he had zero chance of winning.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:50 am to MileHighDraw
This is one of the reasons I'm skeptical of the concept of citizens arrest. Untrained or overzealous people can lend to fricked up situations like this. I don't know the law enough to exactly what happens but I doubt the guys just walk nor should they.
Even if the guy did try to steal something as far as I know there is not a single place in the US where theft carries a death sentence.
Nothing good about this story all the way around
Even if the guy did try to steal something as far as I know there is not a single place in the US where theft carries a death sentence.
Nothing good about this story all the way around
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:51 am to Powerman
quote:
who is clearly engaged in suspicious activity
What suspicious activity did you witness? Or are you taking the word of two guys, who killed someone in the street as gospel?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:53 am to Manzielathon
quote:Not no, but frick no. I can't believe you are even attempting to argue this.
So you don’t think his background, his attire, his location, lend ANY legitimacy to the to notion he was committing crimes before this took place?
quote:Strange thing to care about. Most of us care about making sure a murderer goes to prison, and all you can think is "y'all better not think this dude was jogging!" It's absurd, man.
Do you actually think this guy was jogging? That’s what I care about. Dispelling that notion.
quote:Yep.
These two rednecks shouldn’t have done what they did
quote:Yep.
they clearly escalated the situation for no good reason
quote:Well, you know, they'll get a trial. The deceased unfortunately won't.
but it’s not entirely clear whether what they did is actually illegal under Georgia state law. That will be determined in the near future.
But as long as we don't think he was jogging, it's all good right?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:58 am to FredBear
Yeah, definitely something to avoid, a citizens arrest, most definitely for only a property crime. I'm quite certain these guys are at the present time not too confident in righteousness and justification of the choices they made that day.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 5:08 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:08 am to MileHighDraw
There are easily many, many different approaches that could have been taken that would not have led to literally gunning down someone in the middle of the street.
Whether the dude who got his arse shot off deserved it or not is not a question the law will address. A jury maybe, but not the law...
Whether the dude who got his arse shot off deserved it or not is not a question the law will address. A jury maybe, but not the law...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:46 am to Knight of Old
Libs are such suckers for these stories. The media gets them hyperventilating over a racial incident and they immediately want to hang whitey. How many times have there been stories that started out this way where a white shoots an unarmed black, only later to find out the truth and circumstances behind it. The media is playing you libs again. Now, these two guys with guns maybe be guilty, and if they are they deserve to be punished, but lets wait for more facts to come out before hanging anybody because all anyone knows is what the media shows them, and we've all seen how reliable that has been.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:54 am to Manzielathon
quote:
Not according to Georgia state law it isn’t. If they can prove they had legitimate reason to believe this individual was involved in the commission of crimes in the area, then attempting to stop him was legal.
Absolutely none of this is true.
Adding to the McMichael’s difficulties, there was no “string” of break-ins in the area.
And Georgia’s citizen arrest law requires you to have seen the person commit a crime. And even if you have seen a person commit a crime, it does not provide for violence in stopping or detaining them.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 6:46 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:08 am to the808bass
This should have never occurred. I doesn’t look good at all. I am sorry for the fella that was gunned down in some armed citizens arrest scenario.
Like all of these I will wait until the details come out in the court of law. That’s the prudent thing to do. You are innocent until proven guilty. That’s the standard. That should be respected. Even in a case like this.
However now we have to deal with folks proclaiming on social media that this is why they are afraid to let their children walk to the school bus and other completely ridiculous statements as if white people are out riding around looking to shoot unarmed black kids on their way to the school bus. Again, social media at its finest.
Like all of these I will wait until the details come out in the court of law. That’s the prudent thing to do. You are innocent until proven guilty. That’s the standard. That should be respected. Even in a case like this.
However now we have to deal with folks proclaiming on social media that this is why they are afraid to let their children walk to the school bus and other completely ridiculous statements as if white people are out riding around looking to shoot unarmed black kids on their way to the school bus. Again, social media at its finest.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:37 am to Korkstand
Tell us your opinion on Trayvon Martin....
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:43 am to Powerman
What does it mean when a liberal ends his post saying “you’re the dumbest person ..... “ ???
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:44 am to MileHighDraw
quote:instead, they will cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands
those bastards should publicly hanged
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:53 am to Korkstand
quote:
So a guy is on foot and two dudes with guns chase him down in a truck. Dude gets out of truck with gun and unarmed dude on foot ends up shot dead. And you are blaming it on the dude who got chased down?
He’s blaming it on the guy who started wildly swinging on somebody with a gun. White, black, Asian, you’re getting smoked if you do that.
I know that the absolute fricking idiots on this board are conditioned to believe the “unarmed” bullshite that started with Trayvon Martin’s case, but there’s no such thing as an unarmed person when two people are in a fight and one of them has a gun. It immediately turns into a fight over life or death and any sane person would pull the trigger immediately if they had control over the gun before the other person got control of it and possibly turned it on him.
It sucks that somebody died but the outrage over this is ridiculous. He started swinging at a guy with a gun and got shot, just like 100% of this board would have in the same situation.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:00 am to Korkstand
quote:
Most of us care about making sure a murderer goes to prison,
No, most of you are on a message board PRETENDING to care.....
It's called "virtue-signaling".
The Media put out their "hate-whitey" bait and you cucks have taken the bait and are relishing your chance to spew your hatred of white folks and Southerners.....good little sheep.
Now, if these two men REALLY DID kill this guy with NO PROVOCATION and no evidence that might lead one to believe we might be missing all the info, then sign me up for the firing squad.
The problem is, the Media almost ALWAYS gets it wrong, sometimes on purpose (see Trayvon Martin).
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:05 am to oogabooga68
quote:
Now, if these two men REALLY DID kill this guy with NO PROVOCATION and no evidence that might lead one to believe we might be missing all the info, then sign me up for the firing squad.
Every detail of the story shows it is their actions and their actions alone that led to the shooting. If they don’t get into their vehicle, he’s alive. If they don’t take guns with them, he’s alive. If they don’t get out of their vehicle, he’s alive. They created a dangerous situation, intentionally and knew they might have to kill the person they were confronting. They were not doing so to protect themselves or anyone else.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:11 am to Korkstand
quote:
Armed a-hole cut him off and met him on the other side. ANYBODY would fight at that point. You have to. It's instinct.
If you actually believe that engaging in a 2 on 1 fight against 2 guys with guns at close range is a good idea, then you are the dumbest person on this board and it isn’t even close. No one who’s ever spent a day in infantry agrees with you, but I’m sure you’re a total keyboard badass and could disarm both of them before you get shot 9 times in half a second
Here’s a word of advice: if two people ever walk up to you with guns looking aggressive, your first move should be literally anything other than punching them in the face. Once you’ve exhausted your other 100 options, still don’t punch them in the face, because that’s how you immediately die.
He would’ve been better off laying face down in the street and pretending to fall asleep, because 99.99999999999% of people won’t shoot someone at random while they’re not being aggressive, as much as the media wants to pretend that they will every time these situations happen
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:12 am to Dawgfanman
Cool, if after a jury trial and a complete showing of the evidence they get the death penalty, I'll gladly throw the switch.
The larger point is that , as per usual, MUCH, MUCH more heinous crimes where the perps are black and the victims are white are simply IGNORED by the Media who are currently shoving this down our throats.
Forgive us if we don't want to take part in the Lefts' favorite sport of whitey-bashing every RARE time something like this comes along.
If they are found guilty, smoke em', but DON'T use this RARE instance to say "see, see, they're lynching us, we're not safe" when the TRUTH is that this young man being killed by white people is a statistical anomaly....
The larger point is that , as per usual, MUCH, MUCH more heinous crimes where the perps are black and the victims are white are simply IGNORED by the Media who are currently shoving this down our throats.
Forgive us if we don't want to take part in the Lefts' favorite sport of whitey-bashing every RARE time something like this comes along.
If they are found guilty, smoke em', but DON'T use this RARE instance to say "see, see, they're lynching us, we're not safe" when the TRUTH is that this young man being killed by white people is a statistical anomaly....
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:13 am to LSUgrad08112
quote:
because 99.99999999999% of people won’t shoot someone at random while they’re not being aggressive
Nope, not true....
There are roving gangs of white men wearing camos who are actively seeking to gun down Bible-toting black youth according to the Media and their sheep.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:24 am to oogabooga68
quote:
The larger point is that , as per usual, MUCH, MUCH more heinous crimes where the perps are black and the victims are white are simply IGNORED by the Media who are currently shoving this down our throats.
How often do DAs refuse to charge people in those cases?
quote:
Forgive us if we don't want to take part in the Lefts' favorite sport of whitey-bashing every RARE time something like this comes along.
I’m a well armed, white, redneck republican...I don’t care about whitey bashing. These two idiots could’ve killed a white person and I’d feel the same. The media is terrible.
quote:
If they are found guilty, smoke em', but DON'T use this RARE instance to say "see, see, they're lynching us, we're not safe" when the TRUTH is that this young man being killed by white people is a statistical anomaly...
Well this I agree with. But this statistical anomalies family deserves for this to be investigated completely. It looks like that would not have happened if not for the media. Blame the DA and county officials who tried to keep it from going to court.
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