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Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:38 pm to L.A.
The real question is if they support late term and after birth killings. That’s what I would like to know
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:10 pm to VanCleef
How could anyone downvote this? I understand y'all have strong tribal political opinions and have visceral hate for people who disagree with you. Imagine if your high school daughter was forcibly raped by a black man, should the law require her to her to make that child your grandson/granddaughter and be a lifelong tribute to your daughter being raped?
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:13 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Not looking for sermons. Just curious if there are any prolife liberals
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:16 pm to L.A.
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Just curious if there are any prolife liberals
They exist. Thankfully, they are a minority in the current Democratic Party.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:29 am to VanCleef
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Imagine if your high school daughter was forcibly raped by a black man
Why are you so racist?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:45 am to L.A.
I’m a pro-life libertarian, which some people find weird since pro-choice seems to be the obvious libertarian position.
But if you believe that life begins at conception, then it follows that the unborn child’s right to life supersedes the woman’s right to choose in the same way that any other person’s right to life precludes another person’s liberty to stab him or her in the throat.
I think Ron Paul (the only politician I’ve ever truly admired) has roughly the same view.
But if you believe that life begins at conception, then it follows that the unborn child’s right to life supersedes the woman’s right to choose in the same way that any other person’s right to life precludes another person’s liberty to stab him or her in the throat.
I think Ron Paul (the only politician I’ve ever truly admired) has roughly the same view.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:48 am to L.A.
I’m pro choice but with heavy restrictions
I believe in 20 week cap on abortions. This is basically 4 months to decide.
I believe in 20 week cap on abortions. This is basically 4 months to decide.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:58 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Pro life but abortion is legal and a wonan’s right.
Pretty sure that is pro choice...
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:11 am to L.A.
quote:You'd have to lay out the definition.
Are any of you td.com liberals pro-life?
Does "Pro-life" mandate no elective abortion, even in 1st trimester?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:30 am to NC_Tigah
This question seems to be begging for my opinion, although I'm not 100 percent on being the voice of reason. I'm a male, and I'm also only vaguely committed to religious (mainly Christian) principles, so perhaps what the OP wants to get an answer from (ie Liberal versus the most devout Christians).
I consider myself somewhere in the middle on Con/Lib (maybe 55/45 or 60/40 respectively), and identify mostly Libertarian, but only on some basic principles. I was previously pro-choice given the talking points from 15-20 years ago and perhaps shaped by concepts discussed in Freakanomics, with terminating bad environment PRE-births, given that the care for such after birth (deformations, abnormalities) does not justify the means.
However, the narrative has become too aggressive for my tastes, and live birth terminations look to be much closer to flat out murder!
If we are to sign off on this, why not sign off on the right for a woman to give birth on her own and dump the baby in a dumpster (left for dead). I don't see a difference.
There's a growing nefarious theme going on where Planned Parenthood is reinforcing the concept of late trimester terminations and immediate birth killings to suggest the support what? Body parts, and blood supply for "buyers"? That's just weird and sick. I think we need to find out more about where this operation is taking us as a society.
Yeah I should say Q brought me here, so take that for what it's worth. There are aspects of the Q movement that gives me questions that can't be answered, and this is one of them. However, my spidey senses on Q messages on a broader scale are that Red Cross and Planned Parenthood operations have some dirty business partners that will float to the surface (human awareness) that will clear up some of our liberal/conservative differences. I feel somewhat blessed that my religious intuitions don't weigh too heavy on such topics. Must be a tough pill to swallow for some.
I consider myself somewhere in the middle on Con/Lib (maybe 55/45 or 60/40 respectively), and identify mostly Libertarian, but only on some basic principles. I was previously pro-choice given the talking points from 15-20 years ago and perhaps shaped by concepts discussed in Freakanomics, with terminating bad environment PRE-births, given that the care for such after birth (deformations, abnormalities) does not justify the means.
However, the narrative has become too aggressive for my tastes, and live birth terminations look to be much closer to flat out murder!
If we are to sign off on this, why not sign off on the right for a woman to give birth on her own and dump the baby in a dumpster (left for dead). I don't see a difference.
There's a growing nefarious theme going on where Planned Parenthood is reinforcing the concept of late trimester terminations and immediate birth killings to suggest the support what? Body parts, and blood supply for "buyers"? That's just weird and sick. I think we need to find out more about where this operation is taking us as a society.
Yeah I should say Q brought me here, so take that for what it's worth. There are aspects of the Q movement that gives me questions that can't be answered, and this is one of them. However, my spidey senses on Q messages on a broader scale are that Red Cross and Planned Parenthood operations have some dirty business partners that will float to the surface (human awareness) that will clear up some of our liberal/conservative differences. I feel somewhat blessed that my religious intuitions don't weigh too heavy on such topics. Must be a tough pill to swallow for some.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:40 am to L.A.
Personally, yes, but the issue is fraught and complicated, and I don’t believe it’s my place to state unequivocally that it should be illegal.
I’m very much on the “safe, legal, and rare” path, where late term abortions happen only to save a mother’s life or end suffering, and abortions due to unwanted pregnancies are drastically lowered by sex ed and easy access to contraceptives.
I’m very much on the “safe, legal, and rare” path, where late term abortions happen only to save a mother’s life or end suffering, and abortions due to unwanted pregnancies are drastically lowered by sex ed and easy access to contraceptives.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:18 am to Huge Richard
You know what would cause most of us not to be here?! If "dudes" had the ability to take a pill once a day, or a shot every 6 months, or insert a device in their body so that they won't produce active sperm. The day that convenient and effective male contraceptives becomes an option the sex crazed male will no longer be trappable.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:27 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:I do not think it is weird at all. I disagree, but do not think it is weird.
I’m a pro-life libertarian, which some people find weird since pro-choice seems to be the obvious libertarian position.
Libertarians are the only ideology that actually emcourage discussion and dissent. One of those discussions is about the point at which the NAP starts.
I read a study claiming that about 1/3 of libertarians agree with you. Always good to hear a polite and reasoned competing argument
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:37 am to lepdagod
If having a vagina allows women (and only women) to make decisions on keeping a baby during pregnancy, then should having a penis allow men (and only men) to make decisions on paying for children after pregnancy? Why should men bear the burden of childcare cost if they don’t want to? Their wallet, their right?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:39 am to L.A.
I can vote democrat if I want.
I can choose not to support 3rd trimester abortions or even over 20 weeks.
I can choose not to support 3rd trimester abortions or even over 20 weeks.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:42 am to L.A.
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I'm asking because I read an article today which asserted that in todya's Left one can't be pro-life. Just wondering if this is true. Are all pro life advocates conservatives?
I like that your shitty thread didn't get any traction initially, so you decided to stimulate it a bit.
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Are all pro life advocates conservatives?
Are all pro-choice advocates liberals?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:45 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are all pro-choice advocates liberals?
Yes
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:50 am to L.A.
I am the opposite of what you are asking, I am a right winger who is ok with early term abortions although with the promotion of late term and post birth infanticide by some arms of the Democratic party I find my views to be on shakier ground than they were a year ago.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:52 am to L.A.
I’m conservative but pro-abortion
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