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re: Judicial Jurisprudence killing Trump EO’s.

Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:22 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:22 am to
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Trying to turn it into a vague mass of some institutional threat is leftist thinking.



bullshite. Looking at the judiciary as a group is leftist thinking? You may have missed this in the other thread because you didn't comment so I'll share it again.

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Between 2006 and 2020, Americans’ perceptions of their courts were most often in line with the median for OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) countries, with a majority in each typically expressing confidence. Since 2020, confidence in the courts across the other OECD countries has been stable, while the U.S. has seen a sharp decline -- 24 percentage points -- in the past four years. The resulting 20-point gap in confidence between the U.S. and the median of OECD nations in 2024 is the largest in the Gallup trend, which dates to 2006.


https://news.gallup.com/poll/653897/americans-pass-judgment-courts.aspx
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15906 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:28 am to
That's not the way things work, and you know it.
I'm just a bill
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11318 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:30 am to
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I used the AEA as an example. He simply did not use the correct wording.


What a stupid way to run a country. "You can't do what the people elected you to do unless you use the magic words!"

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but the method and use of words is very important


And here's the problem. You care more about the process than the results. You'll never save your country like that. The democrats broke every rule to bring in 20 million leeches, gangbangers, rapists, and murderers but you demand the Republicans not only follow every single minute law, rule, or norm, but also, now, they must say the exact right words while doing so.

It's insanity. You might as well just break out the lube for the democrats, because getting fricked is the only thing that will happen with the way you want things done. Losing your country because you demand your side adhere to rules to overturn the evil perpetrated against us by those who flagrantly violate the law is simply retarded.

Common sense is struggling to survive on the right.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74964 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:36 am to
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If SCOTUS doesn't rule correctly, Trump admin should simply ignore them.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74964 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:38 am to
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Or dissolve SCOTUS as Jesse Kelly explains here:


Some people have lost their damn minds.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82217 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:40 am to
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If we're talking about authoritarianism.



Biden and his entire shitlib party's quest for authoritarianism lead them to intentionally disregard the law.

They put us on a crisis path with the very real and foreseeable reaction being a corrective call for counter authoritarianism.

Hearing the left concerned about movements toward authoritarianism when they are the root cause, is comical.
Posted by KwoodTiger
Member since Aug 2011
1117 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:42 am to
That’s not a Patek…
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37845 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:43 am to
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EO are no way to run a Presidency.

I agree but if Trump is forced to rely upon the GOPe in Congress to get his agenda rammed through, he might as well have just stayed out of the race and retired to playing golf at MAL.

EOs are the ONLY way he can accomplish ANYTHING.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:45 am to
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What are the rest of us supposed to think when you say shite like this?


Is there a limit on what SCOTUS could declare in your eyes and maintain legitimacy? You would just accept any opinion they ever issued as something that must be respected and adhered to regardless of the facts?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10103 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:49 am to
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On whose part?


Whoever is advising the President on legal matters. I don't have any inside information, but it seems as if Steven Miller dictates policy, and then they deploy someone from a third-rate law school to come up with some legal justification for that policy.




Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19359 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:51 am to
Your hate and buffoonery are noted.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1866 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:56 am to
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You care more about the process than the results.


Lets put it another way. Are you ok with the next democrat president having the same power that Trump is using now. Being able to decide on spending through EO without having to go through congress?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68121 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:02 am to
All I've been trying to say for the last couple of months is, do you really want a Dem doing some of these things? I'm sure you would be totally comfortable with AOC's interpretation of what is an "invasion," "terrorist," "gang member," or deporting a foreign student over words she doesn't like.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26666 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:03 am to
The Biden crew ran wild refusing to enforce laws, indeed aiding and abetting the act of breaking probably every immigration law on the books in plain sight for everyone to see. WHERE was the judiciary then? Cheering them on.

Now that Trump actually tries to enforce the law, which is...duh..HIS JOB...oh no we can't have that because it impedes the Left's agenda.

Most of what he is doing is either undoing an action an earlier President took. or exercising his Article 2 powers. The Judiciary has no jurisdiction .
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77349 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:04 am to
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They should have known the miscreants from the left would break every rule in the book to thwart non-communist/progressive/globalist agenda right?

They did and they have.
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Is there a contingency plan to execute that’s on hold for some unknown reason?

Trump says there is.

Either you trust the man, or you don't. Your choice.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:05 am to
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Whoever is advising the President on legal matters.


So when the president, as Commander in Chief, directs a policy that says "no more trannies in the military", is the person advising him in the wrong? A judge slapped an injunction on it, so they must be wrong if the metric is "a judge disagreed with it."

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I don't have any inside information

Nor do I, nor do I have a law degree. But when I see a judge issue an injunction about military personnel decisions it doesn't do much for the judges who may be issuing legally correct (to the extent such things exist) opinions.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19359 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:05 am to
Exactly
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10103 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:12 am to
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What a stupid way to run a country.


TenWheels, you make some good points, but laws ARE made up of words. On what basis do you suggest we run the country?

As for deportation, laws aren't the problem. Resources are. I think there are less than 700 immigration judges. THAT is a national crisis, because it's that bottleneck that leads to illegal aliens being in the country FOR YEARS until their cases are resolved.

Hire 7,000 immigration judges for three years. THAT would go a long way toward solving the problem.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9304 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:17 am to
Helping the Democrats screw Trump.

They are quiet as church mouses. At this point it is Trump and his people vs the world. I honestly never expected it to be this bad.

The House is lost in the mid terms, not sure about the Senate. But more important, I don't care.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77349 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:20 am to
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I used the AEA as an example. He simply did not use the correct wording.


Lengthy thread from Prof. Margot Cleveland explaining why the judge in the AEA syntax case did Trump a favor:

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