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re: Judge tells TX county to return banned books to library, county shuts down library instead

Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14340 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
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You do? With your kids? You know there are groomers out there, right?



I live in a town of 1900 people. I personally know the 70+ year old librarian, and went to school with her kids. Sure, I know there are groomers out there, and not everyone can live in Mayberry, but that's my situation.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7175 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:38 pm to

Can someone please tell me how this got in front of a federal judge
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19718 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:39 pm to
Why don't they just ignore the judge's order?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18431 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:43 pm to
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So unless I fall on the side of absolutely nothing being inappropriate for young children to see, read, and explore, I'm setting up a premise to be used against me in the future? I guess I'll have to live with that. Your terms are acceptable.

Didn't say that. Nice attempt to spin though. Feel free to follow along and address what I said. I'm staring to question if you can string together several posts to arrive at a coherent rebuttal.
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Let me guess, because it is inappropriate for children?

Inappropriate and.................what?
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How do you go about avoiding something to which you are unaware? Have you scoured your local library for content? Yeah, I haven't either. But I trust the adults in charge there who would never dream of putting a book explaining, illustrating, or advocating deviant sex to a child.

How do you prepare them for anything they encounter in the world? You can't be there for them all the time.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18431 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:47 pm to
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I live in a town of 1900 people.

This explains a lot

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not everyone can live in Mayberry, but that's my situation

So you live in a small town that you reference as Mayberry and think your solution to the problem will help the majority of the state let alone most of the country.

Have a good day.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33160 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:48 pm to
Why not? I was getting my hands on them at 9-10 years old.

Penthouse
Playboy
Hustler
High Society....waited until I was 12.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14340 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Didn't say that. Nice attempt to spin though. Feel free to follow along and address what I said. I'm staring to question if you can string together several posts to arrive at a coherent rebuttal.


What is inappropriate for school children if sexuality, deviant or otherwise, is not?

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Inappropriate and.................what?


Just say what you want to say, or not. I'm not playing games with you, this isn't a contest, and I'm not fighting any culture war for republicans or anyone else.

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How do you prepare them for anything they encounter in the world? You can't be there for them all the time.


The best way I can, just like anyone else. When I'm not there for them, I make sure that the people who are, are decent human beings. Before you know it, they are grown.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14340 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
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This explains a lot


Do tell.

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So you live in a small town that you reference as Mayberry and think your solution to the problem will help the majority of the state let alone most of the country.


You mean my solution to not allow the library to put inappropriate material in front of young children? Yes, it will help the majority of the state and the country too. If your solution includes putting inappropriate material in front of children, you might be a groomer.

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Have a good day.


I'll do just that, thanks.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1976 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:06 pm to
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Look, I may not like the subject matter of some of these books (the farting snowman does sound intriguing, though), but I don't go for book bans. It's just too Joseph Goebbels for my liking.


Book ban would imply the book isn't available even outside the school library, from my understanding these removals have more to do with age appropriateness. Playboy isn't allowed in a school library, but it certainly isn't banned
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
1427 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:07 pm to
Nobody uses the library anymore
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18431 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:11 pm to
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What is inappropriate for school children if sexuality, deviant or otherwise, is not?

That's not the question being discussed. The real question is do you believe that banning books will be used against you in the future. That is the premise I referenced and what we've been talking about the whole time. Not some morality tangent you keep trying to go off on.

So, do you believe that banning books will be used against you in the future?

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Just say what you want to say, or not. I'm not playing games with you, this isn't a contest, and I'm not fighting any culture war for republicans or anyone else.

Ah it's against the law. You are playing games by not stating the obvious.
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The best way I can, just like anyone else. When I'm not there for them, I make sure that the people who are, are decent human beings. Before you know it, they are grown.

Obviously not. You've mentioned trusting the adults in change but are also bitching about the decision the "adult in charge" made to return the book.

Once again. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is wrong but your approach would be more detrimental than the books itself.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18431 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:18 pm to
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You mean my solution to not allow the library to put inappropriate material in front of young children? Yes, it will help the majority of the state and the country too. If your solution includes putting inappropriate material in front of children, you might be a groomer.

Afraid not pal. You're applying a solution in a controlled environment to one with an unlimited amount of variables.

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If your solution includes putting inappropriate material in front of children, you might be a groomer.

Coming from someone who "trusts" the adults with his kids.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5049 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:32 pm to
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So you think it’s ok for your kids to learn about butt frickin and dick sucking


Liberals don't care about children...even their own it appears...drag shows anyone?
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:33 pm to
Fig.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
Books indoctrinating kids with trans and gay bullshite, graphically describing gay sex (or any sex acts) acts to children etc. can frick off. They have no place in a library where kids have access to them.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2724 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
People wonder why Texas is ranked 40th in the nation in education.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14340 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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So, do you believe that banning books will be used against you in the future?


I'm almost certain that I told you about 5 posts ago that I can live with that, if it keeps inappropriate material out of the hands of school children.

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Ah it's against the law. You are playing games by not stating the obvious.


Okay, it's against the law. Is it against the law if I want to hand a child sexually explicit material? If so, why would it be any different for a library?

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Obviously not. You've mentioned trusting the adults in change but are also bitching about the decision the "adult in charge" made to return the book.


I mentioned trusting adults I trust. Not deviant librarians or judges who support killing unborn children.

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Once again. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is wrong but your approach would be more detrimental than the books itself.


And I'm not disagreeing with you on that point. But I have no problem fighting that fight when the time comes. There has to be a line in the sand somewhere. If someone wants to make the case that the Civil War, or the Life and Times of Ronald Reagan are inappropriate for children, they'll have to prove it.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5049 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:37 pm to
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So would you be okay with homosexual pornography in the children's section? Because that's what a lot of these books amount to.


Well, actually that's what it's all about..indoctrination of your kids...looks like libraries are ground zero for the alphabet movement!
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:37 pm to
Make that book available to 18 y.o. and older. Not sure why that would be an issue.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:38 pm to
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