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re: Judge rules school district must return books with graphic sex themes to school libraries

Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:10 pm to
Id love to see the Authors of these "books" names.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:13 pm to
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John Barron


Oh boy.

This is becoming commonplace now.

Everyones eyes are opening.

Technology is about to frick a lot of people in the arse. Badly.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:15 pm to
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I also think having a sensitive book section is maybe the right idea. idk what that entails exactly but having these books where you can only check them out with a parents permission feels like a very valid way to go (not what’s being argued here)


Parents could either not allow their children to check out sensitive books or be alerted when the student checks out the book. In making her determination, the judge focused on emails between board members regarding their votes on "You Should See Me in a Crown" (namely some members advocating they had to represent their conservative constituents) and some parents comments dealing with lesbian themes in some of the feedback. Nevertheless, this wasn't applied to all of the books and the motivation would seem to be a question of fact for trial.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
529 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
How were these books there in the first place? Perverse librarian? Does each school have that sort of flexibility?

This is honestly why I have trouble with the other side of the political spectrum. We can disagree on policy and how we arrive at solutions, but the left’s clear absence of common decency and reason is beyond my capacity to forgive.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5640 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Technology is about to frick a lot of people in the arse. Badly.



And then a liberal judge will order visuals of said arse fricking to be available in elementary school libraries.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:23 pm to
Ignore them until appeals are exhausted
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:24 pm to
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This will end up with judges being able to approve (ie., create through amicus submissions by the LGB lobby) book lists that local school districts are to buy or make available to students. That would be compelled speech through the use of taxpayer funds for only approved content, would it not?


Judges are not suppose to invade book choice for the educational purpose, i.e. more legalistically,
quote:

f the speech at issue bears the imprimatur of the school and involves pedagogical interests, then it is school-sponsored speech, and the school may impose restrictions on it so long as those restrictions are reasonably related to legitimate pedagogical concerns. The imprimatur concept covers speech that is so closely connected to the school that it appears the school is somehow sponsoring the speech


Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeyer

The judge is stating here that access to the books were removed, and that the removal of access violates the students first amendment rights to receive information and authors (more specifically Jodi Picoult of the Author's Guild) right to disseminate speech. Order
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7608 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:25 pm to
Does anyone know what the books are? And why were they in the libraries to begin with?
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10861 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:25 pm to
WTF is wrong with liberals
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19564 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:26 pm to
The items listed are so egregious it's obvious that the leftists want to lose in perpetuity.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:26 pm to
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And then a liberal judge will order visuals of said arse fricking to be available in elementary school libraries.


Their tactics have always been quite fruitful, until they're not.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79446 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:27 pm to
Focused on that and some emails where the Director said LGBTQ doesn’t belong in any school and the constituents won’t be happy if they return any of these books.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42088 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Biden Appointee. "She is the first openly LGBT federal judge in Colorado and the first openly LGBT woman to serve as a federal district court judge west of the Mississippi." No conflict of interest here. (sarcasm) The federal judiciary and federal government is eat up with homos!


They are SJW activists
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4940 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:29 pm to
Why can’t we just arrest every adult that allows a child to have access to these books for some sort of sexual crime against minors? I’m sure there is something to get them on.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9221 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:32 pm to
Sounds like the judge could be ordering the schools to commit felonies if the material meets this criteria :

Obscene has a three-pronged definition in Colorado:

Appealing to sexual interests; and
Depicting or describing offensive representations of sex acts or genitals; and
Lacking serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

Obscenity can take any material or performative form, such as:

Magazines, books, letters, or manuscripts,
Video, movies, photography, audio, songs, or speeches,
Live or recorded theater, or
Words or gestures
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:33 pm to
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...what the books where and how they got there


(1) The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas;
(2) Beloved by Toni Morrison;
(3) The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison;
(4) The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini;
(5) You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson;
(6) #Pride: Championing LGBTQ Rights by Rebecca Felix;
(7) George (now published and referred to as Melissa) by Alex Gino;
(8) It’s Your World—If You Don’t Like It, Change It by Mikki Halpin;
(9) The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky;
(10) Thirteen Reasons Why by Jay Asher;
(11) Looking for Alaska by John Green,
(12) Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult;
(13) Crank by Ellen Hopkins;
(14) Glass by Ellen Hopkins;
(15) Fallout by Ellen Hopkins;
(16) Identical by Ellen Hopkins;
(17) Burned by Ellen Hopkins;
(18) Smoke by Ellen Hopkins; and
(19) Redwood and Ponytail by K.A. Holt. Order

I don't know how they got there, but a parent had saw where his 11-year-old daughter had checked out a 14+ recommended book from the library that contained profanity and explicit sexual content. The 14+ book was in a middle school library. That started a review process that flagged a number of books that then went through a board, parent, and public meeting process. They used Goodbooks to compare to the library catalog.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20423 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:47 pm to
This fat dyke should spend more energy prosecuting pedophile teachers who keep molesting children in the schools. Always on the wrong side of the 80/20, very predictable.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Conservatives should start flooding elementary school libraries with books about the joy of shooting guns



The interesting point of this is that Florida removed books from public schools by order of the governor and all challenges were lost
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6583 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:06 pm to
Why don't they just tell the judge to frick all the way off and simply not do it?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:07 pm to
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. Nevertheless, this wasn't applied to all of the books and the motivation would seem to be a question of fact for trial.


There is no ability to have a trial when a school board votes to either allow or not allow books in a library within the school

It is not the courts function to determine what books are required to be in a library

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