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re: Judge rules school district must return books with graphic sex themes to school libraries

Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:36 am to
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:36 am to
Yeah Trump is totally creating the constitutional crisis not the judges who have become dictators overnight
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110965 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:37 am to
At this point, I guess the best thing to do would be to just dismantle all other layers of government and bureaucratic framework and run everything via judicial edict. If nothing else, it would cut out the need for a lot of unnecessary bloat.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24381 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:37 am to
What constitutional right do minors have to pornographic material in an education setting? I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13135 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:38 am to
Who died and made her God? The buck stops with us. Can these judges be sued? It is high time to make them pay. If they lose their case they should be required to pay court costs and the total sum of the suite.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89818 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:40 am to
You pretty much know which threads SFP won't go in.


This will be one of them.


Just like with covid. He was all up in the ones arguing about the vaccine effectiveness but completely absent for the mandate threads.





Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:46 am to
Interesting case. Understanding the procedural status may be important.

This is NOT an ex parte TRO ruling, to be in place only a week or so until a hearing on a preliminary injunction. This is a preliminary injunction ruling, which will be in place until full litigation of the case in a year or so.

Apparently, the ACLU skipped requesting a TRO, probably because they knew they would lose on a TRO ... no permanent and irreparable injury, if the books get stuck in a closet for a week.

On one hand, there is the traditional deference given to local school districts on matter of education. On the other hand, the school board is clearly abridging speech. This sort of case involves a balancing of those two, competing interests.

I haven't read the briefing, but my initial inclination is that the Judge got the balancing wrong on this one and that she should not have issued the injunction.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:48 am to
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So selective in which legal thread they jump into.
The thread is barely 30 minutes old, my friend.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23815 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:48 am to
I didn't see the judges ruling or her comments.
I'd like to know how she rationalizes this horrible decision. Surely faggiehank could shed some light, this is his kinda thing.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7944 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:49 am to
this is precisely the time that you provoke them to go further
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:51 am to
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this is precisely the time that you provoke them to go further


I think Miller is doing just that. Trump's team had to know what these judges were going to do.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:52 am to
We have federal laws about obscene material in the presence of minors. Could not be a clearer case to go arrest the judge. If Bondi doesn't produce an arrest in 24hrs here, she should be fired. Same with Kash.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Can these judges be sued? It is high time to make them pay. If they lose their case they should be required to pay court costs and the total sum of the suite (sic, suit?).
If the litigant (here the ACLU) is found to have filed a frivolous lawsuit, they can certainly be hit with various sanctions.

OTOH, the judge does not have much discretion as to which cases get filed in (or assigned to) her court. It isn't "her case."
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82414 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:54 am to
glue the pages together and put them back
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I'd like to know how she rationalizes this horrible decision. Surely ... hank could shed some light ....
I suspect that she prioritized the obvious First Amendment concerns over the traditional deference to local decisions on matters of education.

Again, I disagree with her balancing based upon what little of the detail we have seen to date.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 11:55 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:54 am to
quote:

the school board is clearly abridging speech.


No school board provides copies of every book in print, so I guess they're all "abridging speech."

Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:55 am to
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OTOH, the judge does not have much discretion as to which cases get filed in (or assigned to) her court. It isn't "her case."


Well, it sure wasn't going to be given to a judge like Chamberlain Haller.

I'm pretty sure she was picked for this particular case. Don't know how but it does happen.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:58 am to
quote:

quote:

the school board is clearly abridging speech.
No school board provides copies of every book in print, so I guess they're all "abridging speech."
To some extent that is true in a layman's sense, but the First Amendment addresses "abridgement" based upon political/ideological views.

When a given book is rejected purely based upon a political view concerning its content (as is admitted here), you have a different kettle of fishies.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55329 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:00 pm to
The US Judicial Branch was the very first Branch of the Federal Govt to be completely conquered by the Radical American Left.

This is an all-out effort to stop all American resistance to the Globo Homo Queer Planet agenda destiny that the Left have intended for the USA.

The plan is to make the USA the world power that spreads Globo Homo world wide in order to make a Queer Planet.

We're seen a lot of resistance from the Judiciary, because they have been Leftist the longest.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10595 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:01 pm to
Was going to state 'The Bee' is on a role with these judicial parodies....

Ooopsie.

It's like these absurd leftists read the Bee for inspiration in their work.
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