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re: Judge Rejects Lawsuit Against Lafayette Hospital Vaccine Mandate

Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:26 pm to
He’s misrepresenting or misreading this part of the opinion:

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Employment-at-will is firmly established in Louisiana law. This default rule is contained in La.Civ.Code art. 2747, which states: “A man is at liberty to dismiss a hired servant attached to his person or family, without assigning any reason for so doing. The servant is also free to depart without assigning any cause.”

Without a specific contract or agreement which establishes a fixed term of employment, an “at will” employee is free to quit at any time without liability to his or her employer and, likewise, may be terminated by the employer at any time, provided the termination does not violate any statutory or constitutional provision. See Fauntleroy v. Rainbow Marketers, 04–926, pp. 2–3 (La.App. 3 Cir. 11/10/04), 888 So.2d 1045, 1048.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5918 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:32 pm to
I think the Oschner case is before Tommy Frederick.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:34 pm to
What is to prevent a company from telling all pregnant women that they must get an abortion to keep their job?
What about HIPAA?
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5918 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:38 pm to
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Standing has nothing to do with this case.
Where did all of this talk of standing come from?

Was standing mentioned in news reports or what?

Is standing the reason why the injunction was denied?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32183 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:45 pm to
fricking bullshite.

Fed G mandates it to employers.

Employers, private business, feel they have no choice but to comply.


fricking courts reject it as if the Fed G simply had nothing to do with it.

Clown banana republic. fricking TYRANNY!
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1243 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:47 pm to
I'm not an attorney, so forgive me if I seem ignorant, but is that pretty much the end of the road for this lawsuit, or is there an appeals process where it goes to a higher court now?
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131605 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:48 pm to
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Fed G mandates it to employers.


Uh hospitals were putting in mandates long before Biden did his BS EO
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131605 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:50 pm to
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What is to prevent a company from telling all pregnant women that they must get an abortion to keep their job?


They could i guess but why would they?
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20307 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 5:52 pm to
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That’s not what that case says at all


Then it needs to be.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:05 pm to
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Terminating an employee for exercising his or her rights to refuse medical care is facially unlawful, regardless of the nature of employment. This even applies to "at will" employees, who are the least protected by law. See Newsom v Glob Data Sys., Inc. 2012-412 p. 4 (LA. App. 3 Cir. 12/12/12).

I'm with boosie on this one. That case isn't on point, and I can't find that exact language anywhere. At first, I assumed that you had miscited it, but I'm not finding it. Got a link? I'm #team refusal of treatment should be a fundamental right BTW.

Has this type of case ever went to the lasc on 40:1159.7 or its predecessor?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:06 pm to
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They could i guess but why would they?


Lower their insurance costs.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:08 pm to
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Lower their insurance costs.

Do you public policy, baw?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71987 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:08 pm to
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You don’t have a vested property interest in your job in an at-will state.


This is not true.


quote:

vested property interest


Are you saying their vested interest in employment gives them no standing? What a worthless benefit it is to be vested then. How do teachers and others benefit so greatly from vested status?
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:10 pm to
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People file frivolous lawsuits all the damn time looking for a cheap score. I’ve only heard the phrase “no standing” used infrequently for decades. Now, all of a sudden, not one swinging dick in America has standing anymore.


There was no standing issue in this case, period. Someone made a, I assume, joking connection to the myriad of election cases that were thrown out on lack of standing and people ran with it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177373 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:11 pm to
1000% chance if the judge ruled against the way the media wants for any case they would name the judge.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8440 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Standing has nothing to do with this case. The hospitals are private employers and are free to mandate conditions of employment in an at-will state.


At the risk of many downvotes, this is correct.
Unless the employment agreement is different, they can require. The response is for every non vaxxed to walk and shut down the hospital

Power is with the people with courage
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:18 pm to
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Someone please explain this to me like I’m a recently-formed gamete.



First and foremost, there doesn't appear to be any standing issue in this case. As a general matter, there are requirements for initiating a lawsuit. One of which is whether the party has "standing" or more colloquially "a dog in the fight" More specifically, someone must have harm to their own legal interests. For example, I can't sue one of your suppliers if they breach a contract with you and I don't have any harm.

Its not often that an issue of standing is the basis of a court decision. Nevertheless, it did occur a few times in the last United States Supreme Court term. Most famously, probably in California v. Texas where the Supreme Court ruled that the states challenging the constitutionality of the ACA lacked standing to bring the suit.

Since that decision, you have had a few people derisively refer to any unfavorable outcome in a court case as "lacks standing." even when the issue of standing isn't part of the decision
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 6:21 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:20 pm to
It’s going to be fun when Oschner and Lourdes have to shut down wards, because they don’t have personnel.

These nurses are going to be travel nurses, make much more money, and eventually not return to Louisiana.

frick out this stupid arse state
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:23 pm to
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have to shut down wards, because they don’t have personnel.


The hospitals would rather have people die from lack of healthcare personnel than accept natural immunity as a form of protection against Covid.

It’s a runaway freight train of stupid.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8637 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:29 pm to
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There was no standing issue in this case, period. Someone made a, I assume, joking connection to the myriad of election cases that were thrown out on lack of standing and people ran with it.


Fine and dandy. frick the courts, frick Fauci, and frick every leftist who perverted the American system for their own personal greed.
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